[IronPython] If not IronPython, what?

Dody Gunawinata empirebuilder at gmail.com
Mon Aug 23 16:53:45 CEST 2010

Hi all,

My firm develops both on CPython(Django) and IronPython (embedded in C# 4.0
applications) and we have no plan to change. So far so good. We use
IronPython for the power of its language, not so much for Python libraries.

Dody G.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Michael Foord
<fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>wrote:

>  On 23/08/2010 05:51, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Tristan Zajonc<tristanz at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>> The popularity of the JVM and the CLR suggest not everybody agrees with
>>> your
>>> assessment.
>> A lot of the 'popularity' comes from people who shouldn't be making
>> the choice.  I work for a company where the management think dot net
>> will end poverty, fix global warming and bring world peace while
>> ensuring they grab more of the market than our competition.
>> Every thing has to be dot net to these people, none of whom know what
>> a VM is.    It has to be dot net because microsoft sales people tell
>> them so.
> Well, if languages based on VMs that compile to an intermediate
> representation first and then interpret bytecode are *bad* then that sends
> CPython out of the window too...
> Of course both .NET and the JVM have kick-ass JIT compilers, so maybe it is
> having a JIT compiler that is bad? That makes CPython good but PyPy and
> Unladen Swallow bad (along with IronPython and Jython of course). Hmm...
> The cross-platform story for .NET is not brilliant, with Mono constantly
> playing catch-up and only just switching away from a leaks-like-hell garbage
> collector. Other than that the "technical arguments" that have been
> presented against .NET in this thread are poor.
> All the best,
> Michael Foord
>  Fortunately I can use Ironpython because it has the dot net magic.
>> Unfortunately I cant use cpython because it's just not magic.
>> I agree with Vernon, a VM that basically (I know about mono, but it's
>> always going to be playing catch up) only runs on Windows is a stupid
>> idea.  But as long as people who don't know what they are talking
>> about are running the show thats how it will be.
>> --
>> Rob
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