[IronPython] Announcing IronPython Tools for Visual Studio CTP3

Fri Jul 2 12:32:53 CEST 2010

On 02/07/2010 00:35, Jimmy Schementi wrote:
> Keep in mind, these downloads are hosted on the website directly only 
> while we have this temporary license; once the source code is released 
> as well, the downloads will move to CodePlex.

Right, but the changes I were suggesting were really simple ones no?

>
> That being said, the download page which redirects to the actual file 
> is for tracking purposes; we use Google Analytics to track downloads, 
> and have no way of tracking files that way.

Don't you have server logs? (Or are you counting page views as 
downloads? Given that IE blocks the download by default, and you have to 
manually allow it, you will get some nicely inflated figures that way...)

> It's pretty easy to figure out where the redirect is pulling the file 
> from; hint: http://ironpython.net/tools/<version>/IronPythonTools.vsix.

But the way you find that out is by doing view source on the page after 
you've downloaded it. Or cancel the download and because there is no 
download link you have to refresh the page to start it again. If you 
want to save a versioned filename so you know what version it is you 
have on your fileystem if you need to reinstall then you have to 
remember to do this after you have downloaded and rename it yourself. 
Sending a versioned filename at least would save that.

> Though, we can't track those downloads, and those stats are one of the 
> ways we show Microsoft management the benefits of the project. Also, a 
> list of versions will be at 
> http://ironpython.net/tools/download/versions.html.

That's helpful.

Thanks

Michael Foord

>
> ~Jimmy
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [IronPython] Announcing IronPython Tools for Visual 
> Studio CTP3
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> On 01/07/2010 19:34, Dino Viehland wrote:
>>
>> Hello Python Community,
>>
>> We are happy to announce a minor update to the IronPython Tools for 
>> Visual Studio.  IronPython Tools for Visual Studio (IPyTools) is a 
>> set of extensions available for Visual Studio 2010 which supports 
>> development of IronPython applications.  This release is our 3^rd 
>> Community Technical Preview (CTP) and builds upon the previous two 
>> releases.  The release is a minor update which includes bug fixes and 
>> a number of small features.  You can download the latest release at 
>> http://www.ironpython.net/ironpython/tools/
>>
>
> Can the download page please have a download link on it instead of (or 
> as well as) serving the download through a refresh:
>
> http://ironpython.net/tools/download/
>
> Additionally, if possible, can the downloaded file have a version 
> number in the filename please. :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael Foord
>
>
>> There is also one major change in that the project system is no 
>> longer based upon the files which live on disk.  Instead we now 
>> follow the normal VS project model.  This means files must be 
>> explicitly added to the project and files which you don’t want in the 
>> project won’t automatically show up.  We made this change based upon 
>> feedback from people using the tool and think it will make it more 
>> familiar for normal Visual Studio users.  Despite this change there 
>> is still support for an “implicit” project when working without a 
>> project.
>>
>> Like the previous release this release includes support for 
>> Intellisense including member completion, signature help, find all 
>> references, and goto definition.  It enables quick browsing of your 
>> code using the object browser and the editor navigation bar.  It has 
>> an interactive (REPL) window that enables the development of 
>> applications in an interactive way.  IPyTools supports lightweight 
>> development without a project as well as working with project files 
>> in the tradition of Visual Studio .  Opening a .py file causes 
>> IronPython Tools to model the code in the containing directory as an 
>> implicit project for Intellisense features.   There are project 
>> templates for console, WPF, WinForms, and Silverlight applications.  
>> WPF applications support drag-and-drop UI development.  Debugging of 
>> Python applications works just like you debug other languages in 
>> Visual Studio.
>>
>> We are still working on our final licensing terms for IronPython 
>> Tools, and as such this release is licensed under a temporary limited 
>> use license.  While we weren’t able to finalize this for this release 
>> we expect to have this finalized for the next release.
>>
>> The full list of changes includes a number of bug fixes:
>>
>>                 Interactive window now respects VS color settings
>>
>>                 Fixed default settings for insert tabs, enter 
>> completing options, list of characters to complete to
>>
>>                 Fixed auto-indent inserting extra tabs on a blank line
>>
>>                 Enables usage of VS common settings for smart 
>> indentation and tabs and respects those options.
>>
>>                 Escape in REPL cancels both the intellisense session 
>> and the current input
>>
>>                 REPL: When a completion item is focused but not 
>> selective enter should not complete it
>>
>>                 REPL: We should respect the various intellisense 
>> completion options
>>
>>                 REPL: We should be using IronPython’s auto intending
>>
>> Fix repl not respecting smart up/down on startup if the window was 
>> set to be open
>>
>> REPL: Don’t allow history if the current command is still running – 
>> instead navigate the buffer
>>
>> REPL: Enable syntax highlighting even if a command throws an exception
>>
>> REPL:     Remove trailing new lines from REPL history so we go back 
>> to the last line of input
>>
>> REPL: When pasting ensure there’s a new line
>>
>> REPL: Auto indent should delete selected lines when pressing enter
>>
>> There are also a few new features:
>>
>> New Fill Comment Paragraph feature
>>
>> Implemented auto-dedent so it will backspace # of tabs
>>
>> Support for disabling intellisense via normal VS mechanism
>>
>> Support for hiding “advanced” members in intellisense (currently 
>> defined as __abc__ members)
>>
>> There is one major change:
>>
>>  Removes directory based projects in favor of normal VS style projects
>>
>> - The IronPython Team
>>
>>
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