[ mailman-Feature Requests-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix

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Feature Requests item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 04:44
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Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee)
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Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix

Initial Comment:
I've had a request from a list member who would like us
to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server
(mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind
of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to
change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile
users) would then respond asking us to remove them.

Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make
it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one
of three possible values; use the default list setting,
override on or override off. This would allow users to
please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems
caused by limitations in their mailclient.


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>Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro)
Date: 2008-02-20 06:59

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This discussion should continue on Mailman-Developers at python.org
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers>.

Please keep in mind that this is unlikely to be accepted for the 2.1
maintenance branch, primararily because of the changes to user options and
the corresponding i18n implications.

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Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey)
Date: 2008-02-19 21:43

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It looks like the default subject prefix mangling happens in the main
pipeline after the message is accepted, in CookHeaders. Per-user processing
(like VERP) appears to be done in the queue runners. I guess OutputRunner
would need to be the one to do this, and would need to break up the
recipient list into groups based on what per-recipient munging needs to be
done.

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Comment By: Kenneth Porter (scratchmonkey)
Date: 2008-02-19 16:03

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Nothing seems to have happened with this in the last 3 years. I just saw
this conflict come up again on the Subversion mailing list, and it seems to
come up regularly on any list that has the prefixes disabled (my personal
preference).

Before I start looking at the code, are there any design constraints that
argue against implementing this, or implementing it in a particular way?

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Comment By: Ross Golder (rossigee)
Date: 2005-01-19 00:43

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Some lists use prefixes, some don't. Some users that
subscribe to many lists want consistency, but we don't want
to have to determine and enforce a site-wide policy and deal
with all the ensuing arguments. This feature shifts the
decision from the list/site managers to the individuals
users. Basic headache prevention.

The main argument for prefixes seems to be 'I can quickly
identify what the mail is about in my inbox', where users
haven't got or don't use their client's header filtering
features.

The main argument against prefixes seems to be 'I just get a
screenful of list prefixes when I try to view my list
folders', where users are trying to use mail clients in a
low screen resolution (e.g. old VGA screen, palm/PDA device,
mobile phone, small desktop window whatever).

Sorry for misfiling it. Haven't used SF for a while  -
forgot that feature requests and bugs aren't mixed like in
bugzilla.

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Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi)
Date: 2005-01-18 18:45

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This should be submitted as Feature Request.
BTW, many mailing list users are happy with subject
prefixes. Why not GNOME users? ;-) 


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