[Mailman-Developers] Changing admin address for "umbrella" list subscribers
Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:02:24 -0400
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:31:55PM -0400, Ken Manheimer wrote:
| A while back i implemented a mailman feature to facilitate having
| "umbrella" lists to which other lists could be subscribed. I would
| like to change it slightly, and want to see if i'd be messing anybody
| up with the change. I'm not even sure if anybody but me uses the
| feature, so first i'll explain what it's about, and then i'll explain
| the problem.
| The idea is to enable maillists that are composed of only other
| maillists, as "subscribers". That way, announcements of interest to
| groups of lists could be sent to the encompassing list. This may
| sound peculiar, but it actually makes sense in the context of, for
| example, activities that have regional groups doing their regional
| thing, but also occasionally collecting together for, eg, national
| conclaves, or for discussions of common issues across the regions,
| etc. (In fact, i'm establishing a network of lists for people who do
| something i'm part of, contact improvisation, and this arrangement
| looks really pretty good for us.)
| The only special provision i had to make for this arrangment is an
| admin setting so that the members administrative stuff, like the
| monthly password reminders, are _not_ posted to the subscribed lists,
| but to their administrators. I created the 'reminders_to_admins'
| option, and set it so that the reminders would go to the
| 'email@example.com' account, rather than 'firstname.lastname@example.org'.
| (I'm pretty sure this was pre 1.0b4, so it's been there for a while,
| probably unnoticed by most people.)
| The problem is that it may be that '-owner' is a more prevalent suffix
| for list administrator addresses than '-admin'. At least, that's what
| makelist.com seems to use, and from my probing they don't seem to
| support the '-admin' alias, while the policy for mailman is to support
| both. So i'm considering changing the option to go to '-owner'
| address instead of '-admin', but before i do that i wanted to find out
| whether (1) anyone already depends on the '-admin' option, and (2)
| whether anyone has objections to making the switch, in any case.
there are probably still lots of mailman lists out there that didn't
get installed with the -owner address. it might be a good idea to
make note of this come next release.
| (We could add *another* option to designate the suffix, but that
| doesn't strike me as a good solution - we'd be better off striving for
| some standard, than encouraging fragmentation here. What good would
| one choice or another be if some of the subscriber lists within the
| umbrella have one and some have the other?)
hmmm. it seems to me that -owner is probably a standard enough suffix
to use for this. Even if it weren't available for a particular list,
it seems likely that any organization grouping lists together like
this would have the administrative pull to get a -owner forwarding
address set up for such an enterprise.
| Any clear feelings, one way or the other, from anyone? I plan on
| making the change within the next few days, but can still be dissuaded
| by solid arguments...
I like the idea :)