the link generated by pipermail in the archives to the pipermail site is dead.... <http://starship.skyport.net/crew/amk/maintained/pipermail.html> no longer exists. -- Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com) Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com) And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"