[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] [ANNOUNCE] Mailman 2.1 alpha 2

Phil Stracchino alaric@babcom.com
Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:02:30 -0700

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:34:22AM +0200, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> After some careful consideration, as well as a chat with a few clueful
> colleagues, I have to disagree with you, Barry. The trick here is 'managing
> the expectations'. Having the message say something like
> To confirm or remove your subscription request, visit
>  <URL>
> And then have that URL bring up a nice overview of what list you are
> subscribing to, the options you chose (regular-digest/mime-digest/etc), what
> email address you entered, and 'remove' and 'confirm' buttons. Frankly, it's
> always bothered me that you can't unconfirm a mailinglist subscription, let
> alone not being able to see what you are subscribing to ;P
> Extra credit if you make the URL (or something similar) also work if a
> subscription is held for approval, but without a 'confirm' button -- just a
> 'remove' one. Actually, the same kind of interface for a held message would
> be great, too :)

I agree strongly that this is the _RIGHT_ way to do it, and it complies
with W3C standards as well.  Opening the URL should not just go ahead and
do something, and many people may be angry if it does.  It should tell the
user what it's offering to do, and then allow the user to make an informed
decision about whether to do it or cancel it.

After all, it's only one extra click.  Keep in mind that there are foolish
people out there who use mail clients from evil software monopolists that
can be configured to automatically preload URLs contained in mail, and
some of them do so configure them.  Then everyone on the list has to deal
with, "How did I get on this list?  Stop sending me mail!"

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