[Mailman-Developers] Wildly OT - qmail and mangling (was: mailman and the web)

J C Lawrence claw@kanga.nu
Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:01:14 -0800


On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:38:35 -0500 
Jay R Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 08:36:26PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> > Typical djb mistake.
>> 
>> While he reinvented common practice (a definite DJB-ism) he
>> hardly violated any standard -- +-addressing is still mostly
>> larval.

> Really?  I've seen it for *years*.

Similarly.  Its penetration in terms of actual use has been damned
small to near non-existant up until about 15 months ago however.
Thus, on account of lacking critical mass, I account it larval.

>> Every MTA I'm aware of that supports +-addressing mandates having
>> the extension character set as part of the feature configuration.

> Do that again?  I fell off.

1) There are MTAs which either directly or through patch support
what I'll loosely call +-addressing.

2) For each of those MTAs configuring +-addressing requires that you
explicitly define the character to be used in segmenting the
address.

3) None of these MTAs per se has a default +-addressing character
from which the config may specify a deviation.  Instead, the
+-addressing character must be explicitly stated as part of the
feature enebling.

>> I've seen both '-' and '+' commonly used over tha last decade ro
>> so outside of DJB circles.  IIRC the early Sendmail patches for
>> +-addressing used '-' by default until enough people yelled at
>> Eric that it was too confusing and tended to screw up their other
>> scripts.

> I see.

Quite.

>>> Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015
>> 
>> Do Tim et al still do the Weds night/Sunday brunch meets?

> Oh.  Hey, Carnage. I wouldn't begin to know.  I've seen Tim once
> in the last 6 years, at a SLUG meeting.  He saw me, and hasn't
> been going to those meetings since.

I heard rumours for a while (semi-regularly exchange mail with
Wilson and a couple old messages with Beach).  I ran into Tim via
email a few years back ('98?) who AIR wrote something quite
ambiguous and then didn't reply further.  I haven't been back to FL
since 97 -- am a little curious.

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