[Mailman-Developers] Creation/deletion of lists through-the-web

Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com
Wed, 9 May 2001 13:59:52 -0400

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 01:40:19PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
>     JRA> It seems pretty plain to me.  Just expand the "list of lists"
>     JRA> though a text filter that explodes the list names into what
>     JRA> the doco says the alias entry needs to look like.
> That's not the difficult part.  What I'm purposefully avoiding is
> having to install sendmail, and /test/ the interoperability.  There
> are all kinds of dark corners lurking there that only someone who uses
> and knows sendmail well enough will be able to solve.  As I've done
> for Postfix.


>     JRA> Thought so.  Forgive me, my revered senior hat, but that's a
>     JRA> bad design.  You've put yourself at their mercy by going
>     JRA> behind their API...
> I disagree.  Postfix documents all this, so I consider it part of
> their API.  And the fact that they have alias_maps /and/
> alias_databases shows that they intend for external applications to
> create and manage maps that Postfix will consult.

Oh.  Didn't realize that.  As JC notes, though, there's a problem in

>     >> cgi doesn't have that problem.  E.g. if I want to create a new
>     >> list on python.org, I'd visit
>     >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/create but if I wanted to create
>     >> a new list on zope.org (a virtual host of a shared Mailman
>     >> installation), I'd visit http://mail.zope.org/mailman/create.
>     JRA> Oh... mailman *does* get that right?  Cool; missed that.
>     JRA> If it knows that, though, how come my mails go out with the
>     JRA> wrong From line?  Doesn't it set the from line to the proper
>     JRA> virtual domain?  Or is my configuration wrong?
> That's almost invariably a sending-MTA configuration issue.  I know
> for a fact that Sendmail used to munge From: headers according to its
> own whims.  You could set all the headers properly to your hearts
> content, and if Sendmail was misconfigured, they'd be broken when the
> end user gets them.
> I'll note that python.org and zope.org are a shared Mailman, virtual
> host arrangement, and it's all worked perfectly with both Postfix, and
> now Exim.

Noted.  Which do you like better?

-- jra
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