[Mailman-Developers] Creation/deletion of lists through-the-web
Jay R. Ashworth
jra@baylink.com
Wed, 9 May 2001 13:59:52 -0400
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 01:40:19PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> JRA> It seems pretty plain to me. Just expand the "list of lists"
> JRA> though a text filter that explodes the list names into what
> JRA> the doco says the alias entry needs to look like.
>
> That's not the difficult part. What I'm purposefully avoiding is
> having to install sendmail, and /test/ the interoperability. There
> are all kinds of dark corners lurking there that only someone who uses
> and knows sendmail well enough will be able to solve. As I've done
> for Postfix.
Ah.
> JRA> Thought so. Forgive me, my revered senior hat, but that's a
> JRA> bad design. You've put yourself at their mercy by going
> JRA> behind their API...
>
> I disagree. Postfix documents all this, so I consider it part of
> their API. And the fact that they have alias_maps /and/
> alias_databases shows that they intend for external applications to
> create and manage maps that Postfix will consult.
Oh. Didn't realize that. As JC notes, though, there's a problem in
reverse.
> >> cgi doesn't have that problem. E.g. if I want to create a new
> >> list on python.org, I'd visit
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/create but if I wanted to create
> >> a new list on zope.org (a virtual host of a shared Mailman
> >> installation), I'd visit http://mail.zope.org/mailman/create.
>
> JRA> Oh... mailman *does* get that right? Cool; missed that.
> JRA> If it knows that, though, how come my mails go out with the
> JRA> wrong From line? Doesn't it set the from line to the proper
> JRA> virtual domain? Or is my configuration wrong?
>
> That's almost invariably a sending-MTA configuration issue. I know
> for a fact that Sendmail used to munge From: headers according to its
> own whims. You could set all the headers properly to your hearts
> content, and if Sendmail was misconfigured, they'd be broken when the
> end user gets them.
>
> I'll note that python.org and zope.org are a shared Mailman, virtual
> host arrangement, and it's all worked perfectly with both Postfix, and
> now Exim.
Noted. Which do you like better?
Cheers,
-- jra
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