[Mailman-Developers] Re: Bounce removal parameters default values

John A. Martin jam at jamux.com
Fri Sep 26 13:22:45 EDT 2003

>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Stark
>>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: Bounce removal parameters default values"
>>>>>  26 Sep 2003 12:45:46 -0400

    Greg> Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> writes:
    Greg> Causing valid bounces to be sent to the envelope sender

Is required by the standards.

    Greg> Instead the list that resent the message gets the bounce and
    Greg> processes it as a failed message -- which in fact is exactly
    Greg> what happened.

The mailing list is the envelope sender of mail sent to the list.  For
example the envelope sender of the mail to which this is a reply is

        mailman-developers-bounces at python.org

which is correct and compliant with the standards.  A standards
compliant MTA will send any DSN (Delivery Status Notice) to that

    Greg> It just shouldn't extrapolate from those messages to
    Greg> assuming the mailbox itself is down.

If any mail is rejected or bounced (ie, initially accepted for
delivery but later a DSN is returned indicating a delivery failure)
then that is a delivery failure.  If you do not like what your
receiving mail systems reject or bounce that is not a Mailman problem.


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