[Mailman-Developers] Patch for Mail Archive mirroring

[Chuq Von Rospach]

>     Brad>     Lars was nice enough to comply with our request to
>     Brad> remove our lists from gmane, but these kinds of operations
>     Brad> should not be done without a positive and explicit approval
>     Brad> from the listmaster.
>
> Any subscriber might be keeping and publishing an archive of the list
> posts.  If the listmaster doesn't like that, he should be vetting each
> subscription, and making sure that each subscriber understands the
> rules.


If the listmaster has a position, it ought to be pusblished in the  
list rules, and the users should abide by that.

problem is, users generally don't read the rules, but if it's not  
published, the owner has only himself to blame.

>   [Otherwise ... under copyright law, the listmaster has no
> interest in the posts.

That's arguable at best.

> the 3rd party archiver.]  I don't see why Gmane or the Mail Archive
> should have to obey special rules here.
>

because it's the list owners list, and  they have the final say on  
how its run. Not the users. If the users don't like it, they can go  
start their own lists, not attempt to co-opt policy on someone else's  
list.

>
> The second is that this patch evidently constitutes a significant
> endorsement of The Mail Archive.

no more than adding in a HOWTO on running with postfix is an  
endosement of postfix.

> ... if Mailman is going to endorse services that way.  I don't really
> think it's a good idea in principle, though.  What happens if The Mail
> Archive goes away or goes proprietary?

then we disable the patch. No biggie. As long as it's not mandatory,  
I don't see a problem here.

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