[Mailman-Developers] Spam/Scam button

Joshua Ginsberg jag at fsf.org
Thu Dec 15 17:14:33 CET 2005


I personally agree that MM is a poor place to do spam management. What
we're considering doing is using some Courier-IMAP-fu to make it work
all pretty like. If SA/dspam/whatever tags a post to a list as spam, it
is delivered to an IMAP mailbox folder that the list administrators can
access. To approve messages mismarked as spam, they simply move the
message to another IMAP folder that is just a pipe back into Mailman.

-jag

On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 03:06 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 6:26 PM -0500 2005-12-14, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> 
> >  While in general I think the mailing list is a lousy place to do spam
> >  removal (it is better done upstream of the MLM), I do think we could add
> >  some useful controls to help here.
> 
> 	I can certainly see the advantage in allowing Mailman to take 
> advantage of additional information placed within the headers of the 
> message by the anti-spam processing system (improved in 2.1.6 over 
> previous versions).  And I can see the usefulness of having a 
> "discard and report as spam" option for list owners and moderators, 
> as mentioned by Dale -- basically, just forward the message to a 
> pre-configured e-mail address.
> 
> 	However, I would seriously question the usefulness of trying to 
> integrate a full-blown anti-spam system into Mailman (e.g., 
> SpamBayes).  IMO, that kind of thing needs to be integrated into the 
> MTA, not Mailman.
> 
> 
> 	My bigger concern here is that people understand who sees this 
> "discard as spam" button, and how it works.  This is not something 
> that would be exposed or otherwise available to the regular mailing 
> list recipients, and I believe that it will be important to manage 
> user expectations in this respect.
> 
-- 
Joshua Ginsberg <jag at fsf.org>
Free Software Foundation - Senior Systems Administrator
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