[Mailman-Developers] Postfix.py extension for virtual_domain management

clif clif at eugeneweb.com
Sun Mar 6 18:59:21 CET 2005

Hi Mike,

I was refering to what you said here:

"...it in my very own special mailman setup." Maybe I missunderstood but
it sounded like "special" here implied non-typical customizations. No?

Yes good points, I think thats why we're here, to talk about the
possibility of better virtual list support in mailman, hopefully to avoid
the pitfalls you mention.

	Have fun,

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Mike Gabriel wrote:

> hi clif,
> [clif's posting is refereing to
>   http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2005-January/017673.html
> ]
> > I've also wished mailman handled Virtual lists better.
> > PostfixVirtual.py Works great, and I also tried removeing the
> that is indeed good to hear. however, i do not like the idea of customized
> bits of extra-code here and there, as new versions of mailman might handle
> things differently in the future. this would mean that admins on
> mailman-customized sites had to adapt the scripts whenever a major change has
> occured in the mailman source code tree. and mostly you only realize the
> major change in code by some sort of list failure. this is not acceptable on
> productive sites. what i would like to fancy, is that the PostfixVirtual.py
> code would be perceived by the Postfix-coders on this list... and
> PostfixVirtual.py is just a suggestion how virtual lists could be handled...
> > name change restriction in General.py:
> >
> > vi /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/General.py
> > /real_name
> >         # Lets try this just for fun...
> >         if property == 'real_name_NOT' and \
> > I did some quick testing and found most of the obvious references to
> > com.foo.test became test without any problems. Though the URLs and some
> > other text still refers to it by the "correct" name.
> i do not think that a very good idea, unless you make sure, that all
> locations, the listname is used at also gets updated (filenames, directories,
> archives, URLs for the WWW-interface, etc.). furthermore, if renaming was
> posssible, there should also be a garantuee, that there is no other list on
> the site, bearing the same name as the one the list is to be renamed to.
> i do think that there is a proper reason, why list renaming is (so far)
> prohibited.
> however, list renaming would be a very fine feature!!!
> > Anyway you mentioned in your post that you had customized mailman in other
> > ways. Do you feel like publishing them as well?
> i have studied my former posting very thoroughly, but cannot guess what you
> are pointing at...
> have a good time,
> mike
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