[Mailman-Developers] Patch for Mail Archive mirroring

Barry Warsaw barry at python.org
Fri May 13 01:25:48 CEST 2005

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 11:05, JC Dill wrote:

> I personally don't see it as being a significant endorsement.  AIUI, 
> it's a patch that allows 2 software programs to work well together.  
> Mailman already provides patches or directions to make mailman work well 
> with qmail and postfix, but I don't believe this constitutes an 
> "endorsement" of qmail and/or postfix.  

In a sense it does though, because we're making some kind of promise to
keep those things working.  Now, the reality is that without Your help,
there's no way I could keep those promises.  I know Mailman works with
Postfix because that's what I use, but I certainly don't have the time
or resources to test under all possible configurations.  I still think
that means that the Mailman community as a whole is endorsing the
support of those external mail servers.

> A simple patch philosophy that will address this and future patches:  If 
> the patch is incorporated into the main mailman build then the default 
> state should be "off" so that the listmaster has to proactively turn the 
> feature "on" for their mailman list server.  


> If the patch remains as an 
> add-on feature that has to be downloaded separately from the main build, 
> then the default state could be "on" (since downloading the patch 
> separately would be a clear indication that the listmaster desired to 
> implement this feature on their mailman list server).  

-1.  Pro-actively enabling a feature shouldn't be that much more work
than downloading it and getting it integrated.

> IMHO, etc.  Caveat:  I'm not a developer so those of you who actually 
> write code and build/install the software (I just run it after someone 
> else installed it for me :-) have much more say on this than I do.  So 
> if you hate my idea, speak up!

Don't underestimate yourself JC!  You're what we developers like to call
"A User", and while your type can be pesky at times <wink>, without you
we're just hacking in the wind (he says, refraining from a more graphic
description :).  Users who help contribute to the design, functionality,
and usability of Mailman -- as you do -- are always welcome on this


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