[Mailman-Developers] Accessible DOM manipulations

[Bryan Carbonnell]

On 7/6/06, emf <i at mindlace.net> wrote:
> Bryan Carbonnell wrote:
>
> > I have to agree with Brad on this.
> >
> > An option may be to give the site admin the ability to turn the JS
> > on/off site wide with a mm_cfg.py variable.
>
> I'm a little reluctant to add another bit flip to mm_cfg when you'll be
> able to delete the .js files or forbid access to the js directory in
> apache and get what you want.
>
> Or you could avoid subjecting all your users to your preference and use
> the no-JS variant that will always be available, or just turn JS off in
> your browser.
>
> Can you help me understand your opposition to Javascript in a webpage
> you serve? Something specific rather than in principle, if you would be
> so kind; I often have a hard time applying abstract concepts to code I'm
> in the process of writing.

Ethan,

For me it's nothing specific. It's more philosophical. I am a very
minimalist when it comes to the 'net. Plain text e-mail and no
scripting or embeded audio/video on web pages. I think the content of
the page should stand on its own legs and not rely on "fancy tricks"
to make it appealing.

I've seen WAY to much bad scripting (and I'm not implying that the
code you are going to write is going to be bad) to actually want to
implement and Javascript.

I also know that quite a few of my users are going to be up in arms if
scripting gets added to the pages. I just want to have the option to
NOT use in in MM. I realize that I can just delete the JS file or
disallow it with Apache, but I feel that since this is a MM endeavour
I should be able to control it within MM and not have to resort to
things like you mention to disable the JS.

I know this sounds negative, it's not. I'm really glad the UI is
getting overhauled. I have done what I could with the XHTML/CSS patch
that I wrote, but I know the UI could be a LOT better.

Just my $0.02

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