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[Barry Warsaw]

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On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:20 PM, <stephen at xemacs.org>  
<stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:

> Barry Warsaw writes:
>
>> I'm definitely interested in improving things here, but I'd like to
>> try to avoid inventing technology here.  There are so many Python web
>> frameworks and templating systems out there, that there's /got/ to be
>> at least one that we can adopt.
>
> If you want to throw some suggestions my way, I'll take a look.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if what's available is universally quite
> poorly adapted to what I'd like to do with it, though.

I know that myself, emf, and others have made several attempts at  
adapting various existing templating systems to Mailman, but I don't  
think any of us have had rousing success (I certainly haven't).  The  
ones I know about are ZPT (various implementations exist), Cheetah,  
Kid, PTL.  I'm sure there are others.

Google gives me this relatively recent comparison:

http://www.simplistix.co.uk/presentations/templating_06/ 
templating_06.pdf

Here Chris Withers gives a pretty good overview of what's available  
and introduces a new package he calls Twiddler (I'm not endorsing any  
toolkit).

IWBNI whatever we choose supports i18n without forcing translators to  
translate entire templates.  IWBNI the templating system were modular  
and separate from the web publisher.  IWBNI the templates can be  
edited by mere mortals.

>> And I'd like to do so in Mailman 2.2 if possible.
>
> I don't think there's much chance I can help with that, unless it's
> gonna be a while. :-(

Who knows? :)
- -Barry

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