[Mailman-Developers] Two more DMARC mitigations

Barry Warsaw barry at list.org
Fri Jun 13 16:21:45 CEST 2014


On Jun 13, 2014, at 12:11 AM, John R Levine wrote:

>> > When a user at a p=reject signs up for a list, you demand an OAUTH API
>> > token if the the provider supports it, otherwise their host system
>> > password.
>>
>> -1 on the password thing.  It's too close to phishing, imposes serious
>> privacy issues on Mailman hosts, and makes them targets for attack.
>
>Honestly, Tough Noogies.  Let list managers make their own security
>decisions.  AOL and Yahoo want all mail from their users to be authenticated.
>Well, OK, this will do it.

This is a really bad idea.  In MM3, we've already eliminated the need for
keeping clear text passwords, and almost gotten rid of any user passwords at
all.  OAUTH tokens are a little better, but no way do I want to hold a clear
text password for users.

-Barry


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