[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 vs Groupserver vs Sympa

[Kẏra]

Thanks everyone for all of these answers!

I've passed them on to the groupserver maintainer who has created this
comparison chart:
http://groupserver.org/groupserver/features/feature-comparison

There are still some gaps to be filled and perhaps this could be the basis
of a wikipedia page and Sympa could be added to the comparison as well.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Ian Eiloart <iane at sussex.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Kẏra,
>
> Some additional answers, inline below. Most of your questions relate to
> the web archiver, and Nico has answered some of those. In order to get all
> the questions and answers in the same place (so people can see which
> questions aren’t yet answered here), I’ve rolled Nico’s comments into this
> reply.
>
> On 7 Oct 2013, at 03:38, Kẏra <kxra at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Kẏra and I am the technology director of the Free Culture
> > Foundation as well as a campaigns organizer for the Free Software
> > Foundation and we're in need up upgrading our mailing lists to a more
> > web-friendly system. I'm doing research on newer list severs to see how
> > they compare. So far Groupserver seems to provide everything, but if
> > Mailman 3 is going to be released soon, we'd like to consider that as
> well.
> >
> > I'm making a comparison chart and wanted to ask about Mailman 3 (and
> > Postorius) features. Answers to any and all of the following with regards
> > to Mailman 3 + Postorius would be super helpful:
> >
> > Can you post from the web interface?
> yes
> > Is there file upload support?
> yes
> > Is there now a search feature? Can it search multiple lists?
> yes, yes
> > Are there web feeds (atom or rss)? Generated from lists? searches?
> threads?
> > files?
> Nico’s plugin API seems to be offering support for this.
>
> > Are posts and administration integrated into the web interface?
> I think that site and list administration are not part of the hyperkitty
> > Can you specify a posting rate restriction?
>
> I don’t know.
>
> > Is full css customization for the web interface supported?
> > Is css customization for the email interface supported?
>
> Hyperkitty supports "themes". I’m guessing you’ll be able to roll your own.
>
> > Is there site-side logging? (as opposed to server side)
> Logging (apart from web accesses) would be a Mailman responsibility. I’m
> not sure what you mean by "site-side", but perhaps you’re after remote
> reporting on a domain of yours hosted a third party at a remote site.
> Again, that’s possible. It could be provided through a web interface, or
> some other means.
>
> > Is there a link to the post in the web interface in the footer of
> messages?
>
> That’ll require co-operation between Mailman and the web archive. But, if
> the web archive URL is predictable, then I think Mailman will be able to do
> this.
>
> > Now that users are more than just email addresses, can you request to
> > contact a list member?
>
> Do you mean from their profile page, or from a list of members?
>
> > Can users have multiple email addresses?
>
> Yes, that’s a part of users being more than just email addresses.
>
> > Are there profile pages where you can see a summary of their latest
> posts?
> yes
> > Can the web interface hide quoted text?
> yes
> > Are usage statistics provided?
>
> The Hyperkitty change log for 0.1 alpha says "show basic list info and
> metrics". Certainly the Mailman 2 logs provide enough information from
> which useful usage stats could be derived. If Hyperkitty doesn’t provide
> the stats that you want, you’ll likely be able to get them from the log
> files.
>
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Also, did Mailman 2 already support LMTP and virtual domains or are those
> > new?
>
> They’re new. Mailman 2 did have partial support of virtual domains, but
> there was a restriction whereby no two domains could have a list with the
> same name: so I can’t imagine that this would be useful.
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Kẏra
> >
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