[Mailman-Developers] [GSoC 2014] Mailman CLI Project

[Patrick Ben Koetter]

* Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen at xemacs.org>:
> Rajeev S writes:
> 
>  > > Also maybe you can try making your tool a little more smart? Like lets
>  > > say I try to create a list abhilash at raj.com and there is no domain
>  > > raj.com in the database, so instead of just showing error maybe you can
>  > > ask the user:
>  > >
>  > > "The domain raj.com does not exist, Do you want to create one? [y/n]"
> 
> I'm not sure I like this approach.  Creating a domain should be a
> heavyweight operation, and eventually should include a bunch of sanity
> checks, like existence of domains and MX records.  I have visions
> (nightmares) of users coming to us saying
> 
>     User: I said yes, but mail never arrives.
>     Dev:  ....  Oh, is there a proper entry in the DNS?
>     User: Doesn't Mailman create the domain?

I doubt anyone that igorant of e-mail and how it works will ever make it to
the MM3 command line client, but yes, such cases do exist. We should have
public pillory that receives name, mail and date, whenever someone confirms
the above question. ;)

However I think the use case "prepare Mailman to handle mail for a domain it
doesn't handle mail for yet" exists and we should find a way to deal with it.

Perhaps we could improve this, if we used better wording that doesn't lead the
operator to believe Mailman will connect a domain, setup DNS, do all the other
foo and finally configure it self to handle mailing lists for that domain?

>  > > Or maybe it could schedule a deletion after a pre-defined time with a
>  > > reasonable default lets say "1 Day"? And for an urgency(to delete) there

Deleting a list/domain requires an (internal) scheduler. Does Mailman have
one? A broom job that can be called via cron?


>  > > could be --force argument?
> 
> Deleting a list should be immediate, but I agree it should be confirmed.

... and it should be possible to pass the confirmation in the command to make
it useful in scripts.

p at rick


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