[Mailman-Users] Messages silently disappearing

[Harald Meland]

[Wes Morriston]

> I have a little more information on this problem.  In
> /home/mailman/logs/errors I get the error messages I have appended
> below.  Looks like there is a problem with permissions.  Weird, because
> I thought I set the thing up exactly as instructed.  My sendmail runs as
> "daemon" and so I configured mailman to run as daemon.

As you are getting stuff in the Mailman logs, I assume that the
Mailman binaries was configured with the correct GIDs.

> Also, I did a "chgrp mailman ." and a "chmod a+rx,g+sb ." in
> /home/mailman where the installed program resides.

That shouldn't be needed -- and also wouldn't suffice for cleaning up
if something got screwed up somehow.  (And you _really_ *don't* want
to run these commands with the "-R" option -- I think that'll really
screw up things).

> Something obviously needs to be tweaked.  Might it be something to
> do with umask?

I don't think so -- "make install" goes to great lengths to set proper
modes on stuff, no matter which umask you have.

> Feb 08 20:01:50 1999 contact_transport: IOError writing outgoing queue
>         exceptions.IOError/(13, 'Permission denied')
> contact_transport: Traceback (innermost last):
> contact_transport:   File "/home/mailman/scripts/contact_transport",
> line 58, in
>  ?
> contact_transport:      queue_id =
> OutgoingQueue.enqueueMessage(from_addr, to_ad
> drs, text)
> contact_transport:   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line
> 143, in
>  enqueueMessage
> contact_transport:      f = Utils.open_ex(fname, "a+", -1, QF_MODE |
> stat.S_ISUI
> D)
> contact_transport:   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 664, in
> open_ex
> contact_transport:      reraise(IOError, e)
> contact_transport:   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 659, in
> open_ex
> contact_transport:      fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms)
> contact_transport: IOError :  (13, 'Permission denied') 

Looks like Mailman fails to create the temporary outgoing queue file
-- what does the output of this commands look like?

  ls -ld /home/mailman/data

It _should_ have write permission for the "mailman" group, i.e. look
something like this:

  drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman       512 Feb  9 17:37 data

-- 
Harald