[Mailman-Users] My Poor Users Have No Hands
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui at plaidworks.com
Thu Aug 3 17:06:06 CEST 2000
At 11:09 PM -0700 8/2/00, Dan Mick wrote:
>You're applying ridiculous standards to stand up for The Poor User because
>you think I care not a whit for them,
Baloney. I just happen to work with them all the time, and have for
years, Dan. you, on the other hand, are acting like the typical
Elitist ListAdmin, of which I know many. "you do it my way, or go
away". Very easy on the list admin, but not good for the end user.
>I'm sorry, Chuq, you're just wrong.
No, I'm not. But you aren't willing to listen, so I won't waste
either of our time any more.
>OK, I'll bite: what sort of lists do you run where you need the
>users more than they need you,
I run, among other things, the e-marketing lists for Apple, where my
daily subscription list is larger than the combined subscription
lists of 95% of the lists run by people on this mailing list
combined, and where I not only have to work with naive users, I have
to work with a high percentage of naive users who don't speak
english. And "you're not smart enough to be on my mailing list" isn't
(no, those lists aren't on mailman. They're 100% custom coded
systems. Mailman couldn't handle them, and isn't flexible enough to
manage them. Yet. But that system handles about 25,000 admin changes
a day, and is one of our mail systems I manage these days)
Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui at plaidworks.com)
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq at apple.com)
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"
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