[Mailman-Users] List-* headers
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui at plaidworks.com
Wed Dec 6 19:13:09 CET 2000
I strongly recommend you NOT do this:
he RFC for the list-* headers is RFC 2369. the purpose of those
headers is to allow people who run mail lists to embed information so
that mail clients can automate process for their end users -- whether
it's setting up an "unsubscribe" button or creating a URL for a user
to click to get list help. it's a new standard, but it solves a HUGE
problem for mail list systems, which is how to help users get access
to list-administration options, since we all know pretty much the
only people who DO keep those "welcome" messages are the people who
don't need them anyway.
Support for these headers in clients is still primitive at best, but
it's a new, important standard, and if the list servers don't support
it, there's no impetus for the mail client authors to do so, so MLMs
like Mailman have to (and are) taking the lead in making that
information available -- even on the internet, adoption of new
functionality takes time. The added overhead is trivial compared to
finally having a single, standard way of documenting these necessary
data pieces and doing so in a way that allows automated use of that
data for our non-techie/naive users.
The nice thing is, if you really, really want that, you have the
ability to do things on the client end to do it. This would be pretty
trivial to do with procmail, for instance. But I don't think we
should gut things on the server end to the lowest common denominator
("let's not do anything anyone doesn't like") because we might as
well shut down and go home.
these headers are a new, emerging email standard. I'd like to suggest
you get used to them, because I think over the next year or so,
they'll become very common as MLMs add the feature and sites upgrade
to the new software.
E-mail is a very dynamic area of the internet right now. It's scary
how much it's changed in the last two years (he says, as a person who
makes his living trying to keep up with it). This is just one piece
of it, but it's a huge one in the long term, because it allows us to
help build tools for those that don't know the techie details enough
to do these things for themselves - and that's a huge problem with
mail lists right now.
Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui at plaidworks.com)
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