[Mailman-Users] Extremely High Membership lists
dereks at kd-dev.com
Thu Jun 29 21:57:34 CEST 2000
I'm still getting multiple copies of stuff... I guess 2.0Beta3 was
premature? (Or was it ever determined to be a MailMan problem?)
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, J C Lawrence wrote:
-> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:00:10 +0100
-> Nigel Metheringham <Nigel.Metheringham at VData.co.uk> wrote:
-> > My belief is that qmail and postfix are more inherently secure
-> > than sendmail - sendmail is one big chunk that does everything and
-> > has root privileges, so a compromise tends to take the whole
-> > machine out.
-> Aye, that's the argument of architectures. Postfix and QMail have
-> architectures that lend themselves to being secure. That doesn't
-> mean they are necessarily are, as the very rapid rash of fixes to
-> both of those products in their early life attests (admittedly
-> almost all for DoS or mail loss/corruption attacks, not system
-> access), just that they basically follow the types of designs that
-> people who do security profressionally tend to prefer (for very good
-> > claw at cp.net said:
-> >> Note: I'm not aware of a single large scale high volume
-> >> commercial service on the 'net that runs Sendmail. Not one. You
-> >> can check this youself by telnetting to the SMTP port on their
-> >> MXes and reading the HELO message.
-> > Apparently according to the sendmail marketing dweeb I saw a few
-> > weeks back they have something like 7 of the top 10 ISPs... which
-> > I don't really believe since it depends how you define things.
-> > AOL was mentioned...
-> AOL is running an in-house developed custom MTA. I don't know what
-> the code roots of that MTA are, but I have considerable reason to
-> think it isn't Sendmail. (They were looking at outsourcing their MTA
-> business a while ago to a company I was consulting to).
-> > their MXes give back something rather customised.
-> $ telnet yg.mx.aol.com smtp
-> Trying 22.214.171.124...
-> Connected to yg.mx.aol.com.
-> Escape character is '^]'.
-> 220-rly-yg04.mx.aol.com ESMTP relay_in.9; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:36:03 -0400
-> 220-America Online (AOL) and its affiliated companies do not
-> 220- authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer
-> 220- networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk
-> 220 e-mail sent from the internet.
-> J C Lawrence Home: claw at kanga.nu
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