[Mailman-Users] Extremely High Membership lists

[Derek Simkowiak]

	I'm still getting multiple copies of stuff... I guess 2.0Beta3 was
premature?  (Or was it ever determined to be a MailMan problem?)

--Derek


On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, J C Lawrence wrote:

-> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:00:10 +0100 
-> Nigel Metheringham <Nigel.Metheringham at VData.co.uk> wrote:
-> 
-> > My belief is that qmail and postfix are more inherently secure
-> > than sendmail - sendmail is one big chunk that does everything and
-> > has root privileges, so a compromise tends to take the whole
-> > machine out.
-> 
-> Aye, that's the argument of architectures.  Postfix and QMail have
-> architectures that lend themselves to being secure.  That doesn't
-> mean they are necessarily are, as the very rapid rash of fixes to
-> both of those products in their early life attests (admittedly
-> almost all for DoS or mail loss/corruption attacks, not system
-> access), just that they basically follow the types of designs that
-> people who do security profressionally tend to prefer (for very good
-> reasons).
-> 
-> > claw at cp.net said:
-> >> Note: I'm not aware of a single large scale high volume
-> >> commercial service on the 'net that runs Sendmail.  Not one.  You
-> >> can check this youself by telnetting to the SMTP port on their
-> >> MXes and reading the HELO message.
-> 
-> > Apparently according to the sendmail marketing dweeb I saw a few
-> > weeks back they have something like 7 of the top 10 ISPs... which
-> > I don't really believe since it depends how you define things.
-> > AOL was mentioned... 
-> 
-> AOL is running an in-house developed custom MTA.  I don't know what
-> the code roots of that MTA are, but I have considerable reason to
-> think it isn't Sendmail. (They were looking at outsourcing their MTA
-> business a while ago to a company I was consulting to).
-> 
-> > their MXes give back something rather customised.  
-> 
->   $ telnet yg.mx.aol.com smtp
->   Trying 205.188.156.228...
->   Connected to yg.mx.aol.com.
->   Escape character is '^]'.
->   220-rly-yg04.mx.aol.com ESMTP relay_in.9; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:36:03 -0400
->   220-America Online (AOL) and its affiliated companies do not
->   220-     authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer
->   220-     networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk
->   220      e-mail sent from the internet.
-> 
-> -- 
-> J C Lawrence                                 Home: claw at kanga.nu
-> ----------(*)                              Other: coder at kanga.nu
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