[Mailman-Users] Re: monthly mailings
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui at plaidworks.com
Mon Oct 2 19:46:01 CEST 2000
At 1:11 PM -0400 10/2/00, Tom Neff wrote:
>Another tack (don't know which one makes more sense) would be for each
>server to send a monthly reminder to each member of ANY of its hosted lists,
>reminding them of ALL lists that they're a member of.
Fewer messages, but if you attach a hunk-O-text for each list, you
quickly end up with a huge piece of email, which you can guarantee
nobody will read.
>That way if you have
>a site hosting a bunch of lists (some seasonal, some temporary, others
>topical etc) you would just get one message per month from that site. Might
>help at least some people.
There really isn't a good way of doing this. you have the choice of:
1) not sending anything, which causes everyone to post "how do I get
off this list?" type messages to the list, since they long since
forgot the instructions.
2) send one message per server (as mailman does today), minus the
passwords, plus a piece of text per list. That's pretty much
guaranteed to generate something most users will blow off and not
bothe reading, but it's less server stress and fewer messages, but it
ties all of the lists together, which (IMHO) on many sites isn't what
you want anyway. And -- what about virtual hosts? Are they split? One
message per vhost? One per each virtual host? What if we extend
mailman to allow a list to live on multiple hosts? what if you have
one or two lists that you do NOT want to have these messages sent to?
Right now, it's all or nothing, and not all sites fit that (mine
doesn't. I'm going to be creating a list that will likely get 2-3
postings a QUARTER, and are announcement lists, not discussion lists
-- but mailman requires they get monthly postings, or none of my
lists get monthly postings... So these users will likely see more
admin messages than real messages -- or if I'm really lucky, about
the same. Not good!)
I really don't like the one-per-server. There are way too many
environments where it causes problems.
3) send one message per list. Which wll annoy people who are
sensitive to # of messages sent, but that's a fairly small population
(smaller than the "reply-to" demanders but larger than the "ID flag
on the subject line" folks), but allows us to stagger the messages
over a period of time, and focus each one to the needs of the list.
I dislike (3) least. In general, I'd love to live without these
messages at all, and the List-foo: headers anda well-written footer
text definitely help in that direction, but don't completely solve
the issue. But if we go with (3), at least we can determine how often
to send out admin messages or turn it off, based on the list needs,
not server-wide. Because not all lists are alike...
Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui at plaidworks.com)
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq at apple.com)
You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.
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