[Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving

Ken Manheimer klm at zope.com
Wed Dec 12 23:39:52 CET 2001

Martin Skjoldebrand <Martin.Skjoldebrand at forumsyd.se> wrote:

> JohnJ at ActiveState.com writes:

[> > I'm inferring that Martin Skjoldebrand originally wrote:]

> >> We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman.  Our info
> >> dept wants a list of press release people who are not admitted to
> >> leave the list by using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying
> >> the list admin).

> >Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented.  I would not
> >want some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup
> >option that allowed "unleavable lists", in any way, shape or form.
> >Yes, even if -you- required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree
> >to it; other follow-on companies/scams may not.

> I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be
> possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed
> when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact
> them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists
> that cover our area.

The thing to do then is to implement something that provides
notification of unsubscriptions **but does not impede the
unsubscriptions in any way**.

(It's not possible to prevent abuse of the software to lock in
subscriptions, but i can think of no reason for a successful mlm to
package such functionality.  I suspect that any whic does should be

My reasoning here is obnoxiously arrogant, and may be unjustifiable.

People experienced enough to implement the abuse themselves should be
experienced enough to figure out why they shouldn't do so, and come up
with better alternatives, and people *lacking* the experience (and/or wit)
to figure those things out shouldn't be helped to make the mistake...)

Ken Manheimer
klm at zope.com

klm at zope.com

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