[Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....

[Richard Idalski]

And My very grievous oversight becomes apparent... well aside from hanging
my head in embarrassment, I now see that the db is not corrupt after all:

[root at lists bin]# ./check_db affiliates
/home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db is fine
/home/mailman/lists/affiliates/config.db.last is fine

 So, what could we be looking at then? a problem with my configuration? a
bug? any ideas?


   Thanks,

	Richard Idalski

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Mick [mailto:dmick at utopia.West.Sun.COM]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:51 PM
To: jonc at haht.com; Mailman-Users at python.org; ridalski at nandomedia.com
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....



> Whoa... me thinks you're on to something, I'm running v2.08 which I
upgraded
> a few days ago. when i run chec_db on that particular db I get :
>
>
> root at lists bin]# ./check_db ../lists/affiliates/config.db
> /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db cannot be
> opened:
>         Not a directory
> /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last cannot be
> opened:
>         Not a directory

Doesn't the fact that it issues a message with config.db listed
twice make you a little curious?  Ypu gave the wrong args to
check_db.

check_db's usage message (also in the top of the script):

Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] [listname [listname ...]]

Try

cd ~mailman
bin/check_db affiliates


>
> ***** ALERT *****
> Both the original database file and the backup seem
> corrupted.  You will probably need to recover both
>     /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db
> and
>     /home/mailman/lists/../lists/affiliates/config.db/config.db.last
> from a system backup, or remove the list `../lists/affiliates/config.db'
and
> re-create it from scratch.
>
>    So It looks like I'l be recreating the list after all.
>
> One other thing I'm wondering is that this address is getting these errors
> fro multiple lists that it's on. Could they all eb corrupt? If so what
could
> cause multiple lists to be corrupt?
>
>   Thanks Again,
>
> 		Richard Idalski
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc at haht.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:28 PM
> To: Richard Idalski; Mailman-Users at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....
>
>
> This is either a bug or an error in your config file.  What version of
> Mailman are your running?  Have run
>   ~mailman/bin/check_db  ~mailman/lists/<listname>/config.db
>
> ???
>
> Jon Carnes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Idalski" <ridalski at nandomedia.com>
> To: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at haht.com>; <Mailman-Users at python.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....
>
>
> > Thanks for the idea, I tried that and after removing them from the list
> and
> > looking at the db dump, the addres is still in the bounce info section,
> but
> > not in the members section... I know you can't edit the db's dirctly, so
> how
> > would I go about taking this address out of the bounce info?
> >
> >    Thanks,
> >
> >       Richard Idalski
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc at haht.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:12 PM
> > To: Richard Idalski; Mailman-Users at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....
> >
> >
> > To stop sending mail to a bouncing address Mailman simply actives the
> nomail
> > option for the offending address; however, at that point Mailman *does
> not*
> > erase or zero out the bounces from the database.  The bounce record is
> still
> > in the database in the bounce_info{ } section.  So it is likely that one
> > more bounce and the user will again be moved over to nomail.
> >
> > Removing the user from the list however *does* remove the info from the
> > bounce_info section (I just checked, using Mailman version 2.06).
> >
> > You should check your database.  Indeed you might need to recreate it.
> >
> > For now, look at the database using:
> >   ~mailman/bin/dumpdb  ~mailman/lists/<listname>/config.db |more
> >
> > and look for the user.  You will find them under "bounce_ info".  Now
> remove
> > the user (go to the web-admin / Membership management / and remove the
> first
> > check mark next to their name / click on the "Submit Your Changes"
button
> at
> > the bottom of the page).
> >
> > Now dumpout the database and look again.  Is the user still in the
> > members{ } section?  Are they still in the bounce_info{ } section?
> >
> > Hope this helps - Jon Carnes
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Idalski" <ridalski at nandomedia.com>
> > To: <Mailman-Users at python.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:57 PM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing address problems....
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Alright, I've got a problem here with an email address bouncing that
> > > shouldn't be.
> > > Here are the results of the bounce log:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: emailaddress at domain.com -
> exceeded
> > > limits
> > > Dec 13 10:35:49 2001 (7197) List-Name: already disabled
> > > emailaddress at domain.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Alright now, I've looked in the membership managament section of the
UI,
> > > and the 'nomail' option is NOT checked for this address.
> > >
> > > I've tried unsubscribing this address and re-adding it to the lists,
all
> > to
> > > no avail, it comes back up with the exceeded limits error.  Where can
I
> > > re-enable this account, my next step will be to completey delete and
> > > re-create the list, but short of this what can I do?
> > >
> > >
> > >   -Richard Idalski
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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