[Mailman-Users] set gid didn't work?

[Amanda]

You are NOT going to believe this one. I'm still not quite sure how this
happened...

 I *looked* for a gid of 401 ... and I looked at all the users the system
would list... No matter what I did, I couldn't get the alias user to show up
at all, short of a sledgehammer.

qmail has a user named alias which is supposed to be created in the "nofiles"
group. I went back to my own logs and when I created the users, I put alias
and the other appropriate qmail users in the nofiles group. However, for some
reason it didn't "take" - it would not belong to the nofiles group. I surmise
that the system didn't think it belonged to ANY group,and so gave it its own
group (?) ... and since nobody specified a text name for that group, the
group wouldn't show up. When I finally DID get it to show me the alias user,
guess what its group number was?

401.

I'm guessing that having a broken user "alias" would not affect other mail
going through qmail.... because the other things don't require the gid? Hmm.
It's strange ... because qmail's been working beautifully with the alias user
set wrong ... presumably this whole time?

Ergh.

::off to rip out every instance of gid 401 she can locate::

=)
Amanda
"I don't get paid enough for this"


Amanda wrote:

> Amanda wrote:
>
> > Everything I "fix" breaks something else so far. I'm engaging in enough
> > growling lately that the editors are frightened of me...
>
> Uy. No kidding.
> Somebody please offer me some advice here...
> Let me start from the beginning. [Again.]
>
> I  have an HP Vectra XU archaic piece of junk running Mandrake 8 (kernel
> 2.4.3). It is running qmail 1.03 and Apache 1.3.20. Mail, telnet, and web
> services are functioning as expected. I installed Mailman 2.0.5,
> according to the documentation, made the proper qmail aliases, ran
> crontab, added the CGI and alias stuff to httpd.conf, etc, etc.
>
> When I initially installed the program, I ran it with-mail-gid=12 (mail).
> Mail was going to the list admin, and I could access and modify the admin
> page without issue. Later I discovered that the program wasn't passing
> mail to the list, so I looked in the logs. I was getting this error
> message:
>     > Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script.
>         WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 401.  (Reconfigure to take 401?)
>     > qmail: 991698598.174168 delivery 5: deferral:
>         Failure_to_exec_script._WANTED_gid_12,
>         _GOT_gid_401.__(Reconfigure_to_take_401?)
>
> Well, I thought that was a little weird, so I looked up gid 401, and it
> doesn't exist. So I collected some additional information, and
> reconfigured with mail gid set to 400 (qmail). It still wasn't working -
> at this point the error message logged was:
>     > Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script.
>         WANTED gid 400, GOT gid 401.  (Reconfigure to take 401?)
>     > qmail: 991698598.174168 delivery 5: deferral:
>         Failure_to_exec_script._WANTED_gid_400,
>         _GOT_gid_401.__(Reconfigure_to_take_401?)
>
> So I attempted to reconfigure with gid 401. Then I got:
> [ No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program. This is the group
> that
> your mail delivery agent runs under, and uses to run filter programs. You
> might want to specify an existing group with the --with-mail-gid
> configure option. Please see your mail agent's documentation, and the
> install file for details. ]
>
> So I attempted to nuke and pave. I ran make clean again, nuked the
> /home/mailman directory, ran configure with the mail gid set to 400, ran
> make install, exactly according to the reinstall instructions, did the
> hokey-pokey, made sure the computer was facing east, paid a shaman to do
> a dance to the mailing list gods...
> ...absolutely no change in the behaviour of the program:
>     > Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script.
>         WANTED gid 400, GOT gid 401.  (Reconfigure to take 401?)
>     > qmail: 991698598.174168 delivery 5: deferral:
>         Failure_to_exec_script._WANTED_gid_400,
>         _GOT_gid_401.__(Reconfigure_to_take_401?)
>
> What I want to know is if anybody can answer any of these questions for
> me:
>
>  - Where in the name of common sense is gid 401? When it says "GOT gid
> 401" where is it getting it? Who/what is passing a gid at that point?
>  - Did I actually do enough to get a clean install of Mm, or are there
> additional steps I can take to ensure that I'm really getting a clean
> install?
>  - Are there any suggestions for installing and configuring this thing in
> a manner in which it might actually work?
>
> We're now getting to the point where my head's going to be on a chopping
> block if I cannot make it work. I'm more than slightly panicked about
> that.
>
> Thanks,
> =)
> Amanda