[Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

J C Lawrence claw at kanga.nu
Wed May 9 02:01:22 CEST 2001


On Tue, 08 May 2001 16:54:59 -0700 
Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui at plaidworks.com> wrote:

> On 5/8/01 4:27 PM, "J C Lawrence" <claw at kanga.nu> wrote:
>>> IMO, the List-* headers are excessive and should, at the very
>>> least, be configurable.
>> This has been a point of contention on the list and elsewhere.  I
>> disagree.

> I'll take a middle ground. If he really feels this is how the
> list-* headers ought to operate, he should write a patch to
> mailman and submit it to Barry via sourcefourge. Barry can then
> decide whether to include it, either as default behavior or as
> some configurable option or external hack/patch.

I believe this has been done already by the last guy to champion RFC
2369 configurability.

> But it's good go give them at least some hint in the message
> itself, since they (a) won't read instructions, (b) the list-* RFC
> isn't well implemented, and <C> the folks who most need that info
> are least likely to know to look in the headers. Implementing
> list-* is investing in future technologies; footer data is
> managing today's users.

Good distinction.  I still use the default Mailman footer that
points to the list page.  With a few thousand subscribers I get
about one message a month (little less actually) asking how to
unsubscribe, and the vast majority of those are due to some unusual
circumstance (mail forwarding etc) which they weren't sure how to
penetrate.

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J C Lawrence                                       claw at kanga.nu
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