[Mailman-Users] Bounce: 0 more allowed over 166798 secs
deckm at cleansoft.com
Sat Nov 10 22:15:55 CET 2001
Ok, I think I have it figured out. Not knowing Python was a hindrance but
having the source sure helped. :)
Turns out that SMTP was returning a 553. When I dug into it a bit on
Google, I saw that 553 was a rcpt host problem. Then I tried sending myself
some mail at another machine using my machine's SMTP and Lo! I was misusing
rcpthosts. I had a rcpthosts file and it had only me in it. So only I was
getting the mails from the list.
Problem solved. I wonder if having a slightly more verbose error message go
into the bounce log, such as 'SMTP returns 553' would make things easier to
diagnose. From the number of Google queries regarding rcpthosts on qmail,
I'm thinking this must happen pretty often. Just a suggestion.
At 12:57 AM 11/10/2001 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote:
>You don't see a lot of answers to this question, because it could be soooo
>many things. My recommendation is that you download the source and install
>Don't let yourself be intimidated by installing the Source, it only takes
>three commands and the whole process is laid out in a file called INSTALL.
>You grab the latest tar ball (something like mailman-2.07_tar.gz) and
>expand it on your server with the command:
> tar -xzf mailman-2.07_tar.gz
>Then you enter the directory it creates and read the file INSTALL.
>That file will tell you to type:
> make install
>Note: you might have to add a two variables to the ./configure line which
>point out your mail user's id and your web user's id. But don't worry
>about that unless you run it and get an error later on...
>On Friday 09 November 2001 21:22, Michael Deck wrote:
> > I'm having trouble with Mailman using and Qmail and xinetd (Redhat 7.1).
> > I think that qmail is working properly, I can telnet to port 25 and send
> > mail successfully off my machine, but if I mail to my list, nothing seems
> > to happen. I had this list setup and working before I installed RH7.1
> > (was Mandrake) and re-installed qmail and mailman. And it's not *totally*
> > broken. But here's what I do
> > * Mail to the list machine. Qmail reports
> > Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.647287 new msg 14
> > Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.647396 info msg 14: bytes 2504
> > from <deckm at cleansoft.com> qp 9005 uid 505
> > Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.653192 starting delivery 27:
> > msg 14 to local ebcwd-list at cleansoft.net
> > Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.653254 status: local 1/10
> > remote 0/20 Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.810137 delivery 27:
> > success: did_0+0+1/
> > Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.810261 status: local 0/10
> > remote 0/20 Nov 9 19:12:05 themule qmail: 1005358325.810283 end msg 14
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.672920 new msg 14
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.673032 info msg 14: bytes 3607
> > from <ebcwd-list-admin at cleansoft.net> qp 9023 uid 505
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.677520 starting delivery 28:
> > msg 14 to local deckm at cleansoft.net
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.677630 status: local 1/10
> > remote 0/20 Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.687740 new msg 622
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.687856 info msg 622: bytes 3711
> > from <ebcwd-list-admin at cleansoft.net> qp 9027 uid 500
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.693422 starting delivery 29:
> > msg 622 to remote deckm at cleansoft.com
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.693469 status: local 1/10
> > remote 1/20 Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.693491 delivery 28:
> > success: did_0+1+0/qp_9027/
> > Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.693511 status: local 0/10
> > remote 1/20 Nov 9 19:13:01 themule qmail: 1005358381.693528 end msg 14
> > Nov 9 19:13:03 themule qmail: 1005358383.965361 delivery 29: success:
> > 184.108.40.206_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_SAA01737_Message_acce
> >pted_for_delivery/ Nov 9 19:13:03 themule qmail: 1005358383.965467
> > status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Nov 9 19:13:03 themule qmail:
> > 1005358383.965487 end msg 622
> > I think what it's doing here is emailing to the list, which may be
> > sending a message to the admin. The admin userid is set to be an alias to
> > deckm at cleansoft.com, but I don't ever receive the message. When I look in
> > /home/mailman/logs/bounce, it says
> > Nov 09 19:13:02 2001 (9020) Ebcwd-list: CDeck at faegre.com - 0 more allowed
> > over 166798 secs
> > one such message for 33 list members. Now, I also created a little test
> > list with two members. One of the members is deckm at cleansoft.com, the
> > other is deckm at cleansoft.net which is a qmail alias to
> > deckm at cleansoft.com. The message to deckm at cleansoft.net got out and I
> > received it, but the other did not.
> > I did a search on Google and also through my email logged archives of
> > this list and can't find an *answered* post on this subject though there
> > are several unanswered.
> > Where should I look, and what should I do?
> > -Mike
> > Michael Deck
> > Cleanroom Software Engineering, Inc.
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