[Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts
jonc at haht.com
Wed Feb 13 14:46:30 CET 2002
Interestingly enough, both Sendmail and Postfix have the options you
mentioned. In sendmail you would typically edit the /etc/mail/access file
and then run "make".
The nice thing about that file is that you can reject from any ip or
ip-range and provide a clear reject message as to why they are being
rejected. I do this all the time (while waiting for a site to bet blasted
via the RBL of my choice).
BTW: I have found that SpamCop is a good way of busting new IP-ranges and
getting them added quickly to the reject list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay S Curtis" <camel at lrllamas.com>
To: <mailman-users at python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts
> I agree with you on stopping spam prior to reaching the list(s), but some
> times it takes a long time before the spammers IP address hits the RBL(s)
> (I have 6 RBL entries in my postfix config - ORBIZ, RBL, DS etc.)
> There is just no good reason NOT to have the option to auto reject admin
> requests based on a simple set of paramaters - IP or DNS block.
> The RBL list_reject function will catch up after a while, but until that
> I could be preemptive and take immediate action. ALSO (wish list)
> A list of banned address prevented from posting a subscription request.
> On Tuesday 12 February 2002 05:41 pm, you wrote:
> > Interesting. That wouldn't be too hard to write up... For my purposes
> > just toss anything that gets held and I like that setup, but I can see
> > point.
> > Still the real solution here is to stop spam from entering your site
> > period. You should look at using the RBL and a few other anti-spaming
> > tools. These are all part of your MTA. And really that is where
> > measure really should be taken...
> > Jon Carnes (just one man's opinion...)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "WJCarpenter" <bill-mailman at carpenter.ORG>
> > To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:23 PM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts
> > > [[This is so irritating (after a while) that I can't believe it's not
> > > a more popular gripe. Feel free to rub my nose in the obvious
> > > solution.]]
> > >
> > > I help run a very low volume mailing list. Most days, there are no
> > > postings. Sometimes weeks can go by with no postings. Every day,
> > > though, we get lots of spam. On weekends, it's at least a couple
> > > dozen a day. All of this spam gets trapped by the "members only" list
> > > option.
> > >
> > > So far, so good.
> > >
> > > It's sort of tedious to go through the web interface to clear out
> > > 50-100 spams. Click, scroll, click, scroll, ... fall asleep, click,
> > > scroll, ....
> > >
> > > I wish one of these things were available:
> > >
> > > 1. A configuration setting that would automatically "reject"
> > > non-member postings, just as if I had gone through the web interface
> > > and selected "reject" for each message. (We don't want to
> > > automatically "discard" non-member posts because we do get the
> > > occasional legit non-member posting. That's the same reason we don't
> > > run a spam filter that silently discards traffic.)
> > >
> > > -or-
> > >
> > > 2. A configuration setting that would automatically mark non-member
> > > postings as "reject" instead of "defer" in the web interface. That
> > > way, we'd just have to do one submit to clear out the crap and then
> > > could easily see if there was something interesting in the queue.
> > >
> > > So, is there anything like either of those in some place I haven't
> > > looked?
> > > --
> > > bill at carpenter.ORG (WJCarpenter) PGP 0x91865119
> > > 38 95 1B 69 C9 C6 3D 25 73 46 32 04 69 D6 ED F3
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