[Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!

Ted M Harapat ted-mailman at mob.net
Tue Feb 19 23:39:39 CET 2002


Well, I did look around the install and compared it to my other system's 2.0.6 
install and it seemed very similar in the way the rights were set. The config.db 
file (in this particular list) is owned by nobody (which apache is running as) 
and group of mailman. In fact, I just checked and every file in the mailman home 
dir is either owned by the user or group of mailman.

After my previous email to you, I even did something far fetched to make sure I 
could write to it. I made a copy of the mailman home dir (preserving 
permissions) and did a recursive chmod 777 against the original mailman 
directory. And then ran the website... it STILL didn't let me save info. I 
wouldn't think so otherwise but with results like that, I would think that it 
must be something outside of that directory. I deleted that directory and copied 
my backup dir back over it. 

I just don't have any ideas... I could reinstall it again.. but I'm not so sure 
that doing so would help me. 

-ted

Quoting Jon Carnes <jonc at haht.com>:

> Have you checked the rights of the install?  Could the config.db of
> your
> test list be read only?  That should spark errors in the
> ~mailman/logs/...
> Also are there any errors in the apache logs?
> 
> Are you using NFS to mount any of the install?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted M Harapat" <ted-mailman at mob.net>
> To: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at haht.com>; <mailman-users at python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or info!
> 
> 
> > Thats a great idea.
> >
> > Well, the linux system is set to think that it is the list server
> and
> virtual
> > website hostname (set via the /etc/hosts file) so I pulled up lynx to
> the
> > localhost virtual domain and it pulled up just fine and I
> authenticated
> and went
> > to the page for adding/removing users and the same thing happened. I
> told
> lynx
> > to Always accept cookies so I know it's working.
> >
> > I'm stumped. I don't see where to go with this. I've read many past
> archives but
> > am finding nothing related to this exact problem.
> >
> > -ted
> >
> > Quoting Jon Carnes <jonc at haht.com>:
> >
> > > Try deleting the old cookie (or delete them all!!!)  But, yes the
> > > virtual
> > > hosting could do you in.  Is the web server configured to "think" it
> is
> > > the
> > > domain name you are using (to browse to it)?  What happens when
> you
> > > access
> > > the server locally using something like Lynx (which is a really nice
> way
> > > to
> > > troubleshoot the problem as it tells you everything it's doing)?
> > >
> > > Jon Carnes
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ted M Harapat" <ted-mailman at mob.net>
> > > To: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at haht.com>; <mailman-users at python.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface saves no settings or
> info!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, I am using IE 6.x for this.
> > > >
> > > > After reading this, I went ahead and tried this in Netscape 4.79
> but
> > > the
> > > same
> > > > thing happened.
> > > >
> > > > I have only one more quirky thing with my setup, I should add.
> The
> > > hostname
> > > > isn't really in DNS as I'm calling it. Because this is a brand
> new
> > > system
> > > thats
> > > > about to take over an old non-Mailman list server, I simply set
> up
> > > my
> > > local
> > > > hosts file to reflect the new IP so only I could access it. Oh,
> and
> > > this
> > > is also
> > > > a virtual domain/website on the new linux system, which is why I
> had
> > > to do
> > > that
> > > > host-file trick so the host-headers would make it come up.
> > > >
> > > > Could either of those two things matter?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > -ted
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Jon Carnes <jonc at haht.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > This is definitely a Frequently Asked Question...  Undoubtedly
> you
> > > are
> > > > > using
> > > > > Konqueror as your web browser.  Konqueror cannot handle the
> new
> > > cookie
> > > > > layout (in version 2.0.8).  Since it mis-reads the cookie, the
> > > > > authentication it sends when you Post is incorrect.  Thus none
> of
> > > your
> > > > > changes are accepted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Use Netscape and your problems will be gone.  Newer versions of
> IE
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > same problem, but the work around for IE is to set the web
> site
> > > with
> > > > > your
> > > > > Mailman install to "Trusted".  I have no idea why that
> works...
> > > except
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > it reads in the cookie without filtering it for bad things.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon Carnes
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ted M Harapat" <ted-mailman at mob.net>
> > > > > To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web interfase saves no settings or
> info!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi. I've setup mailman a couple other time in the past year
> and
> > > it
> > > > > worked
> > > > > near
> > > > > > flawlessly except for a few tiny things that were worked
> out.
> > > I've
> > > > > installed
> > > > > > 2.0.8 on a new (Mandrake Linux) system just yesterday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It all installed fine as always, and I made lists and sent
> some
> > > mails
> > > > > to
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > So it appeared to work. So I went to the web interface to
> start
> > > to
> > > > > configure
> > > > > > them and add the users to the lists. Here's where the
> problem
> > > started.
> > > > > I
> > > > > put in
> > > > > > all the info and hit "Submit Your Changes" and it went to
> that
> > > next
> > > > > page
> > > > > as
> > > > > > normal but none of my changes were accepted. So I tried
> > > non-useradd
> > > > > features and
> > > > > > the same thing happened... nothing was saving! I've checked
> > > > > permissions to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > sure the mailman group had access to all the files in his
> home
> > > > > directory.
> > > > > I even
> > > > > > decided to start from scratch and completely reinstall but
> that
> > > > > produced
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same results. I can't imagine that there is something so
> > > drastically
> > > > > different
> > > > > > from my old installs (of 2.0.6) compared to now that I can't
> > > figure
> > > > > it
> > > > > out. Can
> > > > > > anyone make any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have gone through all of the web & mailman logs and they
> are
> > > > > reporting
> > > > > no
> > > > > > errors related to the mailman account or directories or
> > > permissions.
> > > > > It
> > > > > all
> > > > > > appears perfectly correct.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please advise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -ted
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
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