[Mailman-Users] I don't really know what is right or wrong

Tim Legg mail_man at pc047113.stuorg.iastate.edu
Tue Jan 15 01:03:30 CET 2002

Here is my update to everybody out there who has helped me.  Everybody's
info was very helpful!

I have apache and postfix successfully installed on my FreeBSD 4.4 box.

* I rm'd all files/directories pertaining to mailman from /home/mailman
* I created /usr/local/src/mailman and de-arc'd the tar file to that
* make clean didn't work, but I think that had something to do with me
deleting a bunch of stuff in the first step.
* I ran ./configure in /usr/local/src/mailman
	I found out that my mailman is GID=999 UID=1003
	I found out that my postfix is GID=1003 UID=1002
	I didn't enter any parameters into ./configure since
	I wasn't sure how it would handle them.
* make install - went uneventfully
* /home/mailman/bin/check_perms - No Problems

So it appears that steps 1-3 in the INSTALL were successfully completed.
I couldn't have done it without your help.

I am still unsure about how to proceed with step 4.  I am not incredibly
familiar with Apache and I have absolutely no experience with cgi-bin yet.
I have not yet any experience with cron/crontab either.  To tell you the
truth, I am afraid to proceed any further since I am afraid I might screw
up and have to start all over again.

I am not sure if I should just jump right in and modify my
apache/httpd.conf script like Darren recommended last week.  If anybody
has suggestions about how I should continue, please let me know.

I have saved all my e-mails from this list for a month back, so feel free
to refer to others e-mails.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Darren wrote:

> Hmm.  I'll try to help.  I just got mine set up on FreeBSD with Postfix.  I
> am working with the maintainer of the ports right now because the ports have
> known issues.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you sound new to FreeBSD too.
> Since you are having trouble with the ./configure method, why don't you try
> installing it from ports?  The hardest thing that you'll have to do is edit
> the Makefile.
> What mailer are you going to use?  Do you have Apache installed yet?  You
> need to have both of these running before you tackle Mailman.
> Darren
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Legg" <mail_man at pc047113.stuorg.iastate.edu>
> To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:54 PM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] I don't really know what is right or wrong
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to follow the instructions as best as I can, but I don't think
> > I am understanding it correctly.  Is there any better document other than
> > the INSTALL document that comes with mailman-208?  I honestly can't see
> > myself installing mailman by using this document.
> >
> > Here are some questions/problems I came across anyway.
> >
> > In step 1, I was to create an installation directory which is referred to
> > as $prefix.  The next paragraph told me that /home/mailman is the default.
> > I copied the tarball into this directory for installation and followed the
> > remaining steps.  In step 2 I ran ./configure  The directory where my
> > source code was present was /home/mailman/ and since that was the default,
> > I didn't have to chenge that.  make install worked perfectly but
> > check_perms found 333 problems.  At the end of step 3, I am told to run
> > check_perms from a location other than the source directory.
> >
> > I thought the install directory and source directory were the same thing
> > and that make install would just copy the files to where ever they need to
> > be.  But now I am told that they need to be different.  Where was I
> > supposed to save my soucre then?  Is /home/mailman the right place, or did
> > I screw up royally doing that?
> >
> > I honestly don't have any idea what is going on anymore.  I am probably
> > beyond any hope at this point, now that neither the FreeBSD ports version
> > worked or my building it manually.  Is this really meant to be run under
> > FreeBSD?  At how awkward this install is, I am beginning to have my
> > doubts.
> >
> > I also don't know what all that set-group-id stuff is about or how python
> > works.  It took forever to find that there is no Run command for 'Run
> > bin/check/perms' as written in Step 3.
> >
> > What I need is a step-by-step description telling me what I need to type
> > in order to get this thing installed on a freshly installed version of
> > FreeBSD.  Is there anything that can be done?
> >
> >
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