[Mailman-Users] Using mailman to take care of mailer-demons

J C Lawrence claw at kanga.nu
Wed Jan 16 00:30:21 CET 2002

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:22:19 -0500 
Barry A Warsaw <barry at zope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <claw at kanga.nu> writes:

>> The problem is that Mailman attempts the parse the body of a
>> bounce to determine subscriber address.  As the message body
>> format is not standardised this is an error prone process (which
>> also explains the attraction of VERP).

> Actually, the bounce format /is/ standardized in RFC 1894,
> i.e. Delivery Status Notifications (DSN), and of course Mailman
> groks DSN.  

I knew I should have added an "in practice" there, but by the time I
thought of that I got distracted by a phone call, hit send, and,

> A special place in hell is reserved for the authors of MSExchange
> who not only decided to roll their own, but also made the
> brilliant decision to include absolutely nothing in the bounce
> message which even hints at the remotest morsel of a clue as to
> the intended recipient.  

Aye, so I've been noticing.

<Actively wishes yet again he'd configured his MTAs to auto-bounce
all Exchange connections upon receipt>

J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw at kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
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