[Mailman-Users] Re: ??? Mailman in parallel on Unix and Linux ???

[Jon Carnes]

A lot of folks don't like this, but the default for version 2.1 is to
have the "envelope" sender be <listname>-bounces.  This means that if
the mail gets rejected or bounced, the rejected mail goes back to
Mailman for processing.

The envelope is different from the message.  The sender of the message
is either the original sender or the list address (depending your
Mailman settings for that list).

Now, if you hit reply and the reply tries to go to <listname>-bounces,
then something is wrong.  And I would guess that the problem lays with
the MTA on your Sun box.  For some reason it would be message sender
with the envelope sender.

That being the case, what is processing the mail on your Sun box? And
more importantly:
 - what do the message headers for an email look like before hitting
your Sun box 
 - while on the Sun box - 
 - after being forwarded by the Sun box? 

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Tue, 2003-04-08 at 02:51, Roland Krause wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> 
> I hope to get an answer sooner when I ask you directly and not a mailing
> list :-)
> 
> Some times ago you answered my question regarding Mailman on Unix and Linux.
> Now I have the following environment (email list mailman2):
> 
> Mailserver: SunOS 5.5.1 Generic_103640-28 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-60
> with following lines in aliases file:
> 
> mailman2-subscribe   mailman2-subscribe at ddl016
> mailman2-owner       mailman2-owner at ddl016
> mailman2-bounces     mailman2-bounces at ddl016
> mailman2             mailman2 at ddl016
> mailman2-confirm     mailman2-confirm at ddl016
> mailman2-leave       mailman2-leave at ddl016
> mailman2-join        mailman2-join at ddl016
> mailman2-request     mailman2-request at ddl016
> mailman2-admin       mailman2-admin at ddl016
> mailman2-unsubscribe mailman2-unsubscribe at ddl016
> 
> Webserver: Linux 2.4.19-4GB #1 Fri Sep 13 13:19:15 UTC 2002 i686 unknown
> On this machine new mailman is running. Following excerpt from aliases file:
> 
> mailman2-confirm:       "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman confirm mailman2"
> mailman2-join:          "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman join mailman2"
> mailman2-subscribe:     "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman subscribe mailman2"
> mailman2:               "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman post mailman2"
> mailman2-admin:         "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman admin mailman2"
> mailman2-bounces:       "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman bounces mailman2"
> mailman2-leave:         "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman leave mailman2"
> mailman2-owner:         "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman owner mailman2"
> mailman2-request:       "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman request mailman2"
> mailman2-unsubscribe:   "|/user/mailman2/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman2"
> 
> 
> It works so far. The only problem I have now is that if I send an email
> to mailman2 all list members get the mail delivered by mailman2-bounces.
> Even if I turn off automatic bounce processing for this list. What's wrong?
> Could you explain my how the way of an email over a mailman list to a list-
> member is? Why is mailman2-bounces the supplier?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> Roland
>