[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Panther???

[R. A. Hettinga]

Has anyone got a cold install of Mailman running on Mac OS X 10.3 (no, not
Panther server, it comes pre-installed there :-)) yet?

I walked through the Jaguar (server) install walk-through found at
<http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html>, and read the
mailman INSTALL file, etc., but when I created a new list with the web
interface, it burbled out an error page (appended below), and mailing to
the list addresses, after various twiddles, either get sent to me (which I
stopped by removing myself as the universal recipient of undeliverable mail
:-)) failed outright (see log, below), or bounced because I forgot to turn
on the POP server (the one, UW's, I think, that comes with a rather handy
app called Postfix Enabler, and, yes, I know, if I'd bought Panther Server,
I'd have Cyrus *and* Mailman, and, no, again, I'm not buying Panther Server
:-))

Anyway, if anyone's got any ideas on how to dig out of this, or, better,
has gotten Mailman running on Panther the hard way :-) and wants to compare
notes, let me know.

Thanks!

Cheers,
RAH

various mail.log clippage:

>Dec  7 12:45:02 bullae postfix/smtpd[1854]: A4C32F2181: reject: RCPT from
>bullae.ibuc.com[66.149.49.5]: 450 <clips at bullae.ibuc.com>: User unknown in
>local recipient table; from=<rah at shipwright.com>
>to=<clips at bullae.ibuc.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<[66.149.49.5]>

Bug report from mailman/create:

>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3
>
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
>this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
>happened. Thanks!
>
>Traceback:
>
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/Users/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
>    main()
>  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
>    process_request(doc, cgidata)
>  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 219, in process_request
>    sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
>  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
>    _update_maps()
>  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
>    raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
>RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
>/Users/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)
>
>
>
>
>Python information:
>
>Variable
>Value
>
>sys.version
>2.3 (#1, Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11) [GCC 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc.
>build 1495)]
>
>sys.executable
>/usr/bin/python
>
>sys.prefix
>/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
>
>sys.exec_prefix
>/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
>
>sys.path
>/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3
>
>sys.platform
>darwin
>
>Environment variables:
>
>Variable
>Value
>
>HTTP_REFERER
>http://bullae.ibuc.com/mailman/create
>
>SERVER_SOFTWARE
>Apache/1.3.28 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.4
>
>SCRIPT_NAME
>/mailman/create
>
>SERVER_SIGNATURE
>Apache/1.3.28 Server at user-119ac85.biz.mindspring.com Port 80
>
>REQUEST_METHOD
>POST
>
>SERVER_PROTOCOL
>HTTP/1.1
>
>QUERY_STRING
>
>CONTENT_LENGTH
>140
>
>HTTP_USER_AGENT
>Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/103u (KHTML, like
>Gecko) Safari/100.1
>
>HTTP_CONNECTION
>close
>
>SERVER_NAME
>user-119ac85.biz.mindspring.com
>
>REMOTE_ADDR
>66.149.49.5
>
>SERVER_PORT
>80
>
>SERVER_ADDR
>66.149.49.5
>
>DOCUMENT_ROOT
>/Library/WebServer/Documents
>
>PYTHONPATH
>/Users/mailman
>
>SCRIPT_FILENAME
>/Users/mailman/cgi-bin/create
>
>SERVER_ADMIN
>[no address given]
>
>SCRIPT_URI
>http://user-119ac85.biz.mindspring.com/mailman/create
>
>HTTP_HOST
>bullae.ibuc.com
>
>SCRIPT_URL
>/mailman/create
>
>REQUEST_URI
>/mailman/create
>
>HTTP_ACCEPT
>*/*
>
>GATEWAY_INTERFACE
>CGI/1.1
>
>REMOTE_PORT
>50773
>
>HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE
>en, ja;q=0.92, ja-jp;q=0.96, fr;q=0.88, de-de;q=0.85, de;q=0.81,
>es;q=0.77, it-it;q=0.73, it;q=0.69, nl-nl;q=0.65, nl;q=0.62, sv-se;q=0.58,
>sv;q=0.54, no-no;q=0.50, no;q=0.46, da-dk;q=0.42, da;q=0.38, fi-fi;q=0.35,
>fi;q=0.31, pt-pt;q=0.27, pt;q=0.23
>
>__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING
>0x46:0:0
>
>CONTENT_TYPE
>application/x-www-form-urlencoded
>
>HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING
>gzip, deflate;q=1.0, identity;q=0.5, *;q=0

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R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah at ibuc.com>
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
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