[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 15, Issue 41
Pat
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no entiendoop lo que quieren decirme.
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> 1. Re: Not receiving mail (Somik Raha)
> 2. Re: Not receiving mail (Simon White)
> 3. Re: Not receiving mail (Somik Raha)
> 4. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Todd)
> 5. Re: SetGID (Jon Carnes)
> 6. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Gour)
> 7. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Todd)
> 8. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Gour)
> 9. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Todd)
> 10. Re: re-creating list archive - old List-Archive problem (Gour)
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>From: "Somik Raha" <somik at industriallogic.com>
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> <20031216081202.GA22455 at mediadev.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:01:48 -0800
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Not receiving mail
>Message: 1
>
>Simon White wrote:
> >From this log entry, it looks to me as if the account 'internal' on the
> > local machine is indeed receiving the email.
> > The aliases are not being included. Did you copy them to /etc/aliases
> > before you did newaliases? Have you checked to see if the message turns
> > up in /var/spool/mail/internal ?
>
>I did copy them to aliases. Here's what /etc/aliases shows:
>
>## internal mailing list
>## created: 15-Dec-2003 somik
>internal: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post internal"
>internal-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner internal"
>internal-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd internal"
>internal-owner: internal-admin
>
>Also looked in the /var/spool/mail directory and did not find any file
>called internal.
>
>Regards,
>Somik
>
>
>
>From: Simon White <simon at caperet.com>
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>To: Somik Raha <somik at industriallogic.com>
>References: <015001c3c37e$e4298dd0$0300a8c0 at LOU>
> <20031216081202.GA22455 at mediadev.com>
> <00ad01c3c3f6$1195d8b0$0300a8c0 at LOU>
>In-Reply-To: <00ad01c3c3f6$1195d8b0$0300a8c0 at LOU>
>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:02:13 +0100
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Not receiving mail
>Message: 2
>
>Reply to the list!
>
>16-Dec-03 at 09:00, Somik Raha (somik at industriallogic.com) wrote :
> > Simon White wrote:
> > >From this log entry, it looks to me as if the account 'internal' on the
> > > local machine is indeed receiving the email.
> > > The aliases are not being included. Did you copy them to /etc/aliases
> > > before you did newaliases? Have you checked to see if the message turns
> > > up in /var/spool/mail/internal ?
> >
> > I did copy them to aliases. Here's what /etc/aliases shows:
> >
> > ## internal mailing list
> > ## created: 15-Dec-2003 somik
> > internal: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post internal"
> > internal-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
> internal"
> > internal-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd internal"
> > internal-owner: internal-admin
> >
> > Also looked in the /var/spool/mail directory and did not find any file
> > called internal.
>
>So maybe you need to look in the Mailman logs then, although the log
>entry you showed, if I remember correctly, looked like local delivery to
>me.
>
>--
>Simon White. Internet Consultant, Linux/Windows Server Administration.
>email, dns and web servers; php javascript perl asp; MySQL MSSQL Access
> Bridging the gap between management, HR and the tech team.
>
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>From: "Somik Raha" <somik at industriallogic.com>
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>References: <015001c3c37e$e4298dd0$0300a8c0 at LOU>
> <20031216081202.GA22455 at mediadev.com>
> <00ad01c3c3f6$1195d8b0$0300a8c0 at LOU>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:09:39 -0800
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Not receiving mail
>Message: 3
>
> > Reply to the list!
>
>Apologies! Didn't check the reply-to address..
>
> > So maybe you need to look in the Mailman logs then, although the log
> > entry you showed, if I remember correctly, looked like local delivery to
> > me.
>
>Looking at /home/mailman/logs does not reveal much. I can see three log
>files, error, subscribe and smtp, and error does not have any entries for my
>test mail. smtp shows these lines, but they were from an earlier test.
>Dec 15 14:54:44 2003 (21615) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 20.138 seconds
>Dec 15 15:13:02 2003 (21807) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.093 seconds
>
>Is there any other log file that I should be looking at?
>
>Thank you very much.
>
>Regards,
>Somik
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Simon White" <simon at caperet.com>
>To: "Somik Raha" <somik at industriallogic.com>
>Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:02 AM
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Not receiving mail
>
>
> > Reply to the list!
> >
> > 16-Dec-03 at 09:00, Somik Raha (somik at industriallogic.com) wrote :
> > > Simon White wrote:
> > > >From this log entry, it looks to me as if the account 'internal' on the
> > > > local machine is indeed receiving the email.
> > > > The aliases are not being included. Did you copy them to /etc/aliases
> > > > before you did newaliases? Have you checked to see if the message
>turns
> > > > up in /var/spool/mail/internal ?
> > >
> > > I did copy them to aliases. Here's what /etc/aliases shows:
> > >
> > > ## internal mailing list
> > > ## created: 15-Dec-2003 somik
> > > internal: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post internal"
> > > internal-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
>internal"
> > > internal-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd
>internal"
> > > internal-owner: internal-admin
> > >
> > > Also looked in the /var/spool/mail directory and did not find any file
> > > called internal.
> >
> > So maybe you need to look in the Mailman logs then, although the log
> > entry you showed, if I remember correctly, looked like local delivery to
> > me.
> >
> > --
> > Simon White. Internet Consultant, Linux/Windows Server Administration.
> > email, dns and web servers; php javascript perl asp; MySQL MSSQL Access
> > Bridging the gap between management, HR and the tech team.
> >
>
>
>
>From: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
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> <20031216093539.GA11702 at mail.inet.hr>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:17:58 -0500
>Reply-To: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] re-creating list archive - old List-Archive
> problem
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>Gour wrote:
> > If the listinfo is on http://lists.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/listname and
> > admin on http://lists.domain.com/mailman/admin/listname why is the
> > lists' archive on http://www.virtualdomain.com/mailman/pipermail/.. ?
>
>Check what you have PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL and DEFAULT_URL_HOST set to in
>either Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py. Here's some text from Defaults.py
>regarding PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL:
>
> # The url template for the public archives. This will be used in
> # several places, including the List-Archive: header, links to the
> # archive on the list's listinfo page, and on the list's admin
> # page.
> #
> # This should be a string with "%(listname)s" somewhere in it.
> # Mailman will interpolate the name of the list into this. You
> # can also include a "%(hostname)s" in the string, into which
> # Mailman will interpolate the host name (usually
> # DEFAULT_URL_HOST).
> PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
>
>- --
>Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
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>From: Jon Carnes <jonc at nc.rr.com>
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>To: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel at herald.co.uk>
>References: <20031216163139.GA23512 at herald.co.uk>
>In-Reply-To: <20031216163139.GA23512 at herald.co.uk>
>Date: 16 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500
>Reply-To: jonc at nc.rr.com
>Message-ID: <1071597549.2741.22.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] SetGID
>Message: 5
>
>You should be able to work around this particular problem by having them
>add the apache user (whatever "user" the server runs as) into the
>mailman group. That will allow Apache to run any of the apps and still
>have access to all the data.
>
>Good luck - Jon Carnes
>
>On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 11:31, Melanie Dymond Harper wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to transfer some Mailman list across from one
> > server to another; the current server is local, the new server is some
> > space on a remotely-hosted server.
> >
> > I have everything working in terms of accepting mail and sending it
> out, but
> > I'm having some trouble with the Web interface. Specifically, the web host
> > concerned don't allow setuid/setgid scripts within cgi-bin directories.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, it is possible for the wrapper scripts (e.g.
> /mailman/
> > listinfo/) to work without being setgid, but they don't seem to be picking
> > up the right set of information -- such as the list of lists available on
> > the machine.
> >
> > Is it likely that I will be able to work around this, or should I just
> give
> > up and try to put the lists somewhere else?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mel
> >
> >
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>From: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:41:39 +0100
>Reply-To: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
>Message-ID: <20031216184139.GA1168 at mail.inet.hr>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] re-creating list archive - old List-Archive
> problem
>Message: 6
>
>Todd (Freedom_Lover at pobox.com) wrote:
>
> > Check what you have PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL and DEFAULT_URL_HOST set to in
> > either Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py. Here's some text from Defaults.py
> > regarding PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL:
>
>They're set (in mm_cfg.py) and the mystery is that for some lists
>everything is
>OK, while others have wrong url.
>
>Any other idea?
>
>Sincerely,
>Gour
>
>--
>Gour
>gour at mail.inet.hr
>Registered Linux User #278493
>
>
>
>From: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
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> <20031216093539.GA11702 at mail.inet.hr>
> <20031216171758.GV14532 at psilocybe.teonanacatl.org>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:52:01 -0500
>Reply-To: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
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> problem
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>Gour wrote:
> > Todd (Freedom_Lover at pobox.com) wrote:
> >
> >> Check what you have PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL and DEFAULT_URL_HOST set to in
> >> either Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py. Here's some text from Defaults.py
> >> regarding PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL:
> >
> > They're set (in mm_cfg.py) and the mystery is that for some lists
> everything is
> > OK, while others have wrong url.
>
>Well, just so we'll all know, what are they set to? Was mailman
>restarted after they were last changed, before you ran the fix_url.py
>script? Are the lists that work ones which were created after you
>moved servers? Any other clues that might help differentiate the
>working lists from the nonworking lists?
>
>- --
>Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
>======================================================================
>Learn from the mistakes of others--you can never live long enough to
>make them all yourself.
> -- John Luther
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>From: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:10:32 +0100
>Reply-To: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
>Message-ID: <20031216191032.GA3473 at mail.inet.hr>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] re-creating list archive - old List-Archive
> problem
>Message: 8
>
>Todd (Freedom_Lover at pobox.com) wrote:
>
> > Well, just so we'll all know, what are they set to?
>
>PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.vediclists.net'
>DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>
> > Was mailman restarted after they were last changed, before you ran the
> > fix_url.py script?
>
>Yes, it was restarted severla times.
>
> > Are the lists that work ones which were created after you
> > moved servers? Any other clues that might help differentiate the
> > working lists from the nonworking lists?
> >
>
>Some of the old lists works and the new ones also, while some of the old does
>not work and I do not have clue why is it so.
>
>One possible clue: it looks like that only those lists that were under
>www.virtuladomain.com and now they are moved to lists.domain.com does not
>work, while those that stayed under same domain (whether
>www.virtualdomain.com
>or lists.domain.com) are OK.
>
>--
>Gour
>gour at mail.inet.hr
>Registered Linux User #278493
>
>
>
>From: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:41:07 -0500
>Reply-To: Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com>
>Message-ID: <20031216194107.GB14532 at psilocybe.teonanacatl.org>
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>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] re-creating list archive - old List-Archive
> problem
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>Gour wrote:
> > PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
> > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.vediclists.net'
> > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>
>Here's a WAG, does it matter that PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL is set before
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST? I don't know how Python handles that. If order
>counts, then PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL would be picking up the hostname from
>what's defined in Defaults.py. If order is irrelevant, then so is
>this whole paragraph.
>
> > Some of the old lists works and the new ones also, while some of the
> > old does not work and I do not have clue why is it so.
> >
> > One possible clue: it looks like that only those lists that were
> > under www.virtuladomain.com and now they are moved to
> > lists.domain.com does not work, while those that stayed under same
> > domain (whether www.virtualdomain.com or lists.domain.com) are OK.
>
>You might try using dumpdb on a working list and a nonworking list to
>see what differences there are. I would assume that the nonworking
>lists will have the old virtual domain in them somewhere.
>
>- --
>Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
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>From: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
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>Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:12:09 +0100
>Reply-To: Gour <gour at mail.inet.hr>
>Message-ID: <20031216201209.GA6804 at mail.inet.hr>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] re-creating list archive - old List-Archive
> problem
>Message: 10
>
>Todd (Freedom_Lover at pobox.com) wrote:
>
> > Here's a WAG, does it matter that PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL is set before
> > DEFAULT_URL_HOST? I don't know how Python handles that. If order
> > counts, then PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL would be picking up the hostname from
> > what's defined in Defaults.py. If order is irrelevant, then so is
> > this whole paragraph.
>
>Actually, I wrote in such an order, actually it's:
>
>DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.vediclists.net'
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.vediclists.net'
>
># Using secure http (SSL)
>
>DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>
># Public archive URL
>
>PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'https://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s'
>
>so it does not apply :-(
>
> > You might try using dumpdb on a working list and a nonworking list to
> > see what differences there are. I would assume that the nonworking
> > lists will have the old virtual domain in them somewhere.
>
>I'll do it, and I'm sure that nonworking lists have the old values, but I'm
>just wondering how to change them :-)
>
>Sincerely,
>Gour
>
>--
>Gour
>gour at mail.inet.hr
>Registered Linux User #278493
>
>
>
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