[Mailman-Users] Re: Every day
rhorer at swbell.net
Wed Jan 8 16:37:23 CET 2003
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 08:40, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> > What makes you think that message is coming from Mailman?
> > That looks like a message from stock Redhat processes.
> You might be right, but I never received those messages until Mailman
> was installed on RH 6.1, and I have continued to receive them daily
> through several changes/upgrades of RH to and including 7.3. I think
> it's perfectly normal to suspect something that was install the day
> before the messages started.
It may be perfectly normal, but it's also perfectly presumptuous. From
the tmpwatch man page:
"When changing directories, tmpwatch is very sensitive to
possible race conditions and will exit with an error if
one is detected. It does not follow symbolic links in the
directories it's cleaning (even if a symbolic link is
given as its argument), will not switch filesystems,
and only removes empty directories and regular files."
Since it will not switch filesystems, tmpwatch needs to know on what
mount point each filesystem is mounted. The way to do that is to read
/etc/mtab. There is no direct connection between Mailman and tmpwatch
or /etc/mtab, so your assumption that Mailman is at fault is plain
wrong. It is possible that if you installed Mailman from a binary RPM
some random person created, it might fiddle with /etc/mtab; however,
your gripe then would be with the person who created the package
incorrectly. It's also possible (neigh, likely) that other (unrelated)
changes were made or software installed in the same session with
Mailman. If you've only done in situ upgrades since the time your
/etc/mtab permissions got hosed, it's quite likely that the permissions
haven't been changed. An "rpm -qf /etc/mtab" will reveal that the file
isn't part of any RPM package thus an upgrade wouldn't in and of itself
touch the file.
This is all a very drawn-out way of saying "it's not Mailman's fault."
It's a system administration issue.
Since the general civilizations of mankind, I believe there are more
instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual
and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden
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