[Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Cody Harris]

Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more people want HTML
e-mails.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Barrett" <r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk>
To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
Cc: "Mailman" <mailman-users at python.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email


>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
>
> > If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use XML, would
> > you
> > follow?
>
> The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
>
> Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is
> justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; I contrast
> this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML
> markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
>
> IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth and spam
> and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is not
> justified.
>
> HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on web pages, a
> triumph of form over content.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Customer & Technical Support" <support at pczero.net>
> > To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>; "Mailman"
> > <mailman-users at python.org>; "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >
> >
> >>          HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll
> >> go to
> >> the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the
> >> fact
> >> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML
> >> out of
> >> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> >>
> >>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to
> >>> ppl
> >>> don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the
> > mailman
> >>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> >>> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra
> > traffic
> >>>> that it incurs.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti
> >>>>> html?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> >>>>> To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
> >>> sending
> >>>>>> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
> > prefer
> >>> the
> >>>>>> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
> >>> daily
> >>>>>> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least
> >>>>>> for
> >>> this
> >>>>>> list). The management is handled through the web site itself
> > (skyy.com)
> >>>>>> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
> >>> subscribe
> >>>>>> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique
> > ID
> >>> in
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we
> > went
> >>> w/
> >>>>>> HTML emails :(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> don't send HTML :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically
> > vetoed
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LER
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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