[Mailman-Users] mailman hold notices...

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Fri Jun 27 00:11:26 CEST 2003


	I've recently started doing some work for ntp.org (as the 
listmaster, postmaster, & PGP keymaster), and last week we cut over 
to mailman (2.1.2) from majordomo.  Overall, we are very happy.

	However, there are some things we've run across that we've got 
some questions on, and I haven't found any obvious answers in the 
mailman FAQ, etc....  I hope you don't mind if I ask them here.

	First, I want to change the notice that gets sent back when 
non-subscribers submit a message to a specific mailing list.  The 
generic message is okay for most of them, but one in particular needs 
different text.

	Going to the appropriate mailman/admin/list page for the list in 
question, and then down to "Privacy Options" and "Sender Filters", 
there appears to be a "member_moderation_notice" that would appear to 
be applicable in this case.  I've put in the modified text I want to 
send back, but it's not being used.

	Does anyone have any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong? 
I guess I could edit mailman/templates/en/postheld.txt directly, but 
I'd prefer not to do that.  For one thing, I want this change for 
just one list and not all of them, and I'd prefer not to even try to 
think about what would need to be done for the other languages.

	Secondly, when using the moderation tools to accept a message 
that has been held, we've noticed that the "Date:" header gets 
slightly munged.  We see:

		Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:37:43 +-400 (EDT)

	When it should be:

		Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:37:43 +0400 (EDT)

	This only appears in the full raw archives, and in the messages 
that are sent out via e-mail.

	Third, I've noticed that the only opportunity to change the 
mailing list name (mainly the capitalization) is when the list is 
being initially generated.  Visiting the appropriate admin page and 
changing the field where it says "The public name of this list (make 
case-changes only)." does not seem to have any impact.

	Thanks for any advice or assistance that you can provide!  If 
there are FAQ or other documentation files I've missed where these 
issues are discussed, I would appreciate any and all pointers you can 

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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