[Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many "Uncaught.."

Martin Maechler maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch
Wed Mar 12 16:12:25 CET 2003

>>>>> "John" == John DeCarlo <jdecarlo at mitre.org>
>>>>>     on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:53 -0500 writes:

    John> Martin,
    John> Have you read through these messages?  
yes, (of course)!

    John> Some of the ones I get include "out of office"
    John> messages or other auto-generated messages that aren't
    John> really "bounce" messages.  I.e., they don't indicate a
    John> problem delivering the mail.

    John> My theory is that when I have time I will try and filter out the most 
    John> common ones with procmail or the like.

    John> But you certainly don't want someone's account
    John> disabled because of some of these messages.

But here I give an example of one where I think mailman should
have figured it out:

  From: MAILER-DAEMON at guppy.vub.ac.be (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
  To: <r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch>
  Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
  Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:45 +0100 (MET)

  The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:44 +0100 (MET)
  from hypatia.ethz.ch []

     ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
  <mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>

     ----- Transcript of session follows -----
  ... while talking to akasolvr.vub.ac.be.:
  >>> RCPT To:<mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>
  <<< 553 <mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>... User mathie.roelants unknown at vub.ac.be
  550 <mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>... User unknown

     ----- Message header follows -----

    John> Martin Maechler wrote:
    >> We have upgraded to 2.1.1 about 2 weeks ago.
    >> We have about 20 mailing lists, totalling about 70-100 messages
    >> a day -- although mainly from one 1-3 lists.
    >> I've been getting half a dozen "Uncaught bounce notification"
    >> messages a day, and had been ignoring them more or less --
    >> hoping mailman would somehow do things automagically.
    >> Now that I've read the related info more carefully, I realize
    >> these are just the bounces that mailman is *not* able to deal
    >> with automatically.
    >> I've looked at some and really wondered _why_ mailman couldn't
    >> figure out the E-mail address that bounced when it looked very
    >> obvious to the human eye.
    >> - Hints?
    >> - To whom could I forward examples of these?

    John> -- 

    John> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own

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