[Mailman-Users] AOL and spam reports

Ricardo Kustner mailman at rixhq.nu
Sun Nov 9 15:45:36 CET 2003

M Ondercin wrote:

> At 10:25 PM 11/4/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>      If you really have to deal with this, then send a final notice 
>> that all AOL users will be set to nomail and must set themselves back 
>> if they want to be on the list.  Include directions for resetting from 
>> Nomail.  Send the message, generate a digest, then change all the AOL 
>> folks.
>>      It's that or unsub the lot of them.

I've just hacked a little python script to set all AOL addresses to 
nomail. And send each of them a seperate explanation message on how to 
re-enable their subscription. If any of them DARES to report that 
message as spam too, they'll be banned for lifetime (I included their 
email in the To: and Subject header :) ).

BTW about the AOL whitelisting: I just heard my ISP has made a deal with 
AOL to whitelist their servers... however I think he had to sign some 
sort of contract with AOL. and it wasn't easy to do.


> Thanks,
>         But since that wasn't a viable option, I waited until I recieved 
> the next set of 554 bounces and called AOL's Postmaster number 
> 1-888-212-5537, since we'd never gotten any info back from the email 
> addresses on http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ or been able to find the 
> error on those pages.
> The error is: (reason: 554 TRANSACTION FAILED 554 AOL will not accept 
> delivery of this message)
>         The 554 error is a new one, they don't even have much info on it 
> in their help resources.  They ran our site through their test 
> procedures and verified that we weren't blacklisted, and that we weren't 
> an open relay and etc.  The current fix that they are offering is to 
> whitelist your site (take all the contact info and such), so they can 
> work with you on the problem directly when it comes up.
>         The tech I talked to couldn't find a reason why the messages 
> were being bounced.  Especially since there is no pattern to the 
> bouncing as far as mime/no mime, attachment/no attachment  VERP/no 
> VERP.  It's been completely random.
>         Since I haven't been able to find anything specific on this in 
> the FAQ's or Archives, I thought I'd share what little we've been able 
> to find out on this problem.
>         M Ondercin.
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