[Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?

Todd Freedom_Lover at pobox.com
Tue Sep 23 18:54:43 CEST 2003


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Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I recently received a message about problems with Mailman and CPanel.  I
> don't know anything about CPanel, or why Mailman and CPanel might not be
> working together, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in
> helping to make sure this is still a viable solution.  I know a lot of
> people use Mailman under CPanel, and I think that's a worthwhile thing
> to keep available.

I've had the misfortune of using Mailman on cPanel hosted sites.  One of the
things I noticed first was that you cannot (or could not until very
recently) edit the case of the listname on the General Options page.  Doing
so would yield:

    Error: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's
    name by case only.

cPanel does a little hack (which I'm almost sure has to be applied to the
Mailman source and not to their own software) that appends and underscore
and the domain name to the name of any lists that are created.  Then they
only display the part before the underscore on the listinfo and admin pages
and most everywhere else, except in URL's.  As an example, if I create a
list called Test on a domain like example.com, the list that gets created
with be created as test_example.com.  This solves (or at least tries to
solve) the problem of having multiple lists with the same name in a virtual
hosting environment.

I can't think an any way that they could do this without modifying the
Mailman source, which as I understand the GPL, requires that they release
their modifications.  I have tried asking them directly through their
support pages, as well as bugging the host that's running cPanel to get a
message through to the cPanel people, for the source code for their changes,
but have received nothing from them.

If I had busted my ass to write such cool software and was generous enough
to release it under the GPL, I'd be highly annoyed that some commercial
company was violating that license and causing the software to break in
subtle ways (like the error from above) which made people think that Mailman
was itself buggy when it's really only the commercial company's half-assed
patch.

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