[Mailman-Users] 7th Circle of Burning, Hot, Fire Filled HELL!

DJ Freak djfreak at beathustler.com
Sat Dec 11 04:50:37 CET 2004

Thank you very much for your reply David.

I'm looking very carefully right now at your pp_cfg.py code.  You also 
have fewer lines in your main.cf file than I do.

Mine are:

virtual_alias_maps = hash:/Users/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
virtual_alias_domains = beathustler.com, jessicamartin.org, 
nathanielmiller.com, wigglemusic.com, grapefruitgirl.com
alias_maps = hash:/Users/mailman/data/aliases, hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual

I had to change the order of these lines around and even split them in 
two a bunch of times to get Mailman to finally work.  If something 
about those lines screams wrong to any of you then let me know.  I have 
made a lot of progress since my last post.  Using the above lines 
(which may look odd I agree) I am finally able to post.  A huge 
accomplishment.  How come you don't have virtual_alias_domains David?  
Do you only host one site?

The reason that I ask is that in my pp_cfg.py file I have 
['mail.beathustler.com'] (my server's mail identity).  I have gotten 
the lists working by sending mails to beat-hustler at mail.beathustler.com 
which is also the Preferred URL I have set in the lists' Web Interface 
setting and I have postmapped and newaliased and bin/mailmanctl 
restart'ed and postfix reloaded until my fingers bleed needless to say. 
  However, I wish to have people send subscription mails to 
beat-hustler-subscribe at beathustler.com not mail.beathustler.com which 
refuses to work or ideally have people send simply to 
subscribe at beathustler.com and have that mail sign them up to a list 
which I would set.  Do you have any thoughts on that?  Remembering of 
course that I have several different sites on the server several of 
which may have mailing lists in the future, granted I'm willing to live 
with each URL having only one list each meaning subscribe at domain1.com 
will only subscribe you to domain1.com's set mailing list while sending 
subscribe at domain2.com will subscribe you to #2's list etc.  Is this 

Thanks for any thoughts on this David.


On Dec 10, 2004, at 4:03 PM, David Relson wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 01:15:03 -0800
> Evan Miller wrote:
>> Someone in this world please please tell me how to get Postfix,
>> mailman, and virtual alias maps to all work together PLEASE.  This is
>> not a Postfix issue.  Postfix works fine.  This is an integrating of
>> Mailman issue.
>> Here are my files.  I'm going to sleep now.  I've been at this for 12
>> hours not counting the six days I spent getting Postfix to work.  If
>> any of you have any mercy in your souls you will help me figure out
> why
>> /etc/postfix/virtual will not release its iron-clad grip on my
> incoming
>> mail and allow ~mailman/data/aliases to do its job and route my
>> postings to their lists.  The lists themselves are fine.
>> I have integrated all of the advice that you all have given me today
>> much of which is not in the instructions and I have followed the
> ReadMe
>> as well.
> Hi Evan,
> You've got the same toolset as I do.  Maybe I can offer some tips.
> Note:  I'm something of a rookie myself.  I got mailman up/running 
> about
> 8 months ago and have 3 mailing lists with small subscriber
> counts(around 500 for all 3) and low traffic volumes.  The info below 
> is
> how _I_ have it working and may not be the best way to do it.
> 1)  In /etc/postfix/main.cf there are two mailman related lines:
> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,
>                hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases,
>            hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
> As you can guess, my main mailman directory is /var/lib/mailman (which
> is where Mandrake puts things).  Your location may be different.
> The data/* files are maintained by mailman itself.
> 2)  /etc/postfix/master.cf doesn't reference mailman at all.
> 3) /etc/mailman is the mail man configuration file. On my system there
> is a symlink from/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py to it. It has
> several site specific lines at the end of the file:
> ##################################################
> # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
> #VERP_FORMAT='%(bounces)s+%(mailbox)s=%(host)s'
> #VERP_REGEXP=r'^(?P<bounces>[^+]+?)\+(?P<mailbox>[^=]+)=(?P<host>[^@]+)
> @.*$'
> #VERP_CONFIRM_FORMAT='%(addr)s+%(cookie)s'
> #VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP=r'^(?P<addr>[^+]+?)\+(?P<cookie>[^@]+)@.*$'
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'example.com'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.example.com'
> MTA = 'Postfix'
> There are a few extra commented lines in the above.  Offhand I don't
> recall whether they show mailman default values or alternate setting
>  that I could use but don't.
> HTH,
> David

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