[Mailman-Users] Non-rejected posts

Mark Sapiro msapiro at value.net
Fri Jan 14 22:39:55 CET 2005

Tim Faircloth wrote

>At 02:23 PM 1/14/2005, you wrote:
>>What does the rejection notice say?
>email address has been changed to "joeuser at canes.gsw.edu" to protect the 
>(seemingly) innocent.
>>You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>>been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
>>being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>>mailman-owner at radar.gsw.edu.
>>Received: from canes.gsw.edu (canes.GSW.edu [x.x.x.x])
>>         by radar.gsw.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0EH0Oc16092
>>         for <facstaff at radar.gsw.edu>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:00:24 -0500 (EST)
>>Received: from xxxxx.canes.gsw.edu ([x.x.x.x])
>>         by canes.gsw.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0EH0OF19777
>>         for <facstaff at radar.gsw.edu>; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:00:24 -0500 (EST)
>>Message-Id: < at canes.gsw.edu>
>>X-Sender: joeuser at canes.gsw.edu
>>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:03:38 -0500
>>To: facstaff at radar.gsw.edu
>>From: Joe User <joeuser at canes.gsw.edu>
>>Subject: Library Additions list for Nov-Dec 2004
>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>         boundary="=====================_13333125==_.ALT"
>>X-radar.gsw.edu-MailScanner-Information: Contact GSW OIIT for more information
>>X-radar.gsw.edu-MailScanner: Found to be clean
>>X-MailScanner-From: joeuser at canes.gsw.edu
>>Anything interesting in the Mailman logs, post and vette in particular?
>Not really... just some stuff in post:
>post:Jan 14 09:19:56 2005 (304) post to facstaff from 
>joeuser at canes.gsw.edu, size=2125, 
>message-id=< at canes.gsw.edu>, success
>post:Jan 14 12:00:29 2005 (304) post to facstaff from 
>joeuser at canes.gsw.edu, size=3139, 
>message-id=< at canes.gsw.edu>, success
>The strange thing is that on the first post she made (at 9:19am), she 
>didn't get a reject notice at all...

There are some clues here, but nothing definitive.

The reject notice comes from Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py do_reject.
do_reject is only called if the poster is a non-member and is either
in reject_these_nonmembers or is in none of the *_these_nonmembers and
generic_nonmember_action is Reject.

The big clue is the listowner in this case is
mailman-owner at radar.gsw.edu indicating the post is being considered
for the mailman list, not for the facstaff list.

So it seems that posting to the facstaff list is working except that
some of the time the post is also being considered for the mailman
list too and being rejected there.

The fact that it doesn't happen every time may rule out things like
alias problems, but if you could obtain copies of the two posts from
09:19 and 12:00 you might be able to see some header differences that
could account for this. Also, looking at all the Mailman logs from
these time periods may reveal differences between the two cases.

Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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