[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Brad Knowles brad at shub-internet.org
Fri Dec 15 03:00:42 CET 2006

At 5:32 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote:

>  Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages.  You
>  can browse it here:

Even if they have made the source code available for everything 
they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their 
proprietary management tools), this is not the same thing as 
contributing that code back to the Mailman project.

Likewise, webmin also includes a component for managing Mailman, and 
all their code is publicly available, but we don't say that webmin 
has contributed all their code back to the Mailman project.

Same any other group that takes our code and makes modifications to 
it -- even if they make all their source code publicly available, 
that's not the same thing as contributing it back to the Mailman 

>  Compare that to cPanel where the best you find if you're not a
>  customer is a half-backed and outdated patch (which I was provided
>  only after persistent requests).

That is worse, yes.  But that's also not the point.

>  Disclaimer: I don't know anything about the Apple packages and the
>  only Apple product I own is an iPod. :)

Whereas I was an Apple fan from 1982, back in the original Apple ][ 
days, and before the introduction of the 16K language card, the Apple 
II+, the Apple IIe, the Apple //c, or any other more recent Apple 
product.  I've been a MacFanatic since December of 1983 when I saw an 
early prototype behind closed doors.  I've been a Mac owner since the 
day when I bought a Mac SE -- before the internal hard drive model 
was available.

I've got a long history with the company, but I'm not blind to things 
that they do poorly.  At least, not totally blind.

Brad Knowles, <brad at shub-internet.org>

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