[Mailman-Users] Problems sending to list

[Patrick Bogen]

The various log entries are:
Post:
Feb 09 11:25:52 2006 (20476) post to announce from
root at mail.physics.tamu.edu, size=1924,
message-id=<200602091725.k19HPmje010926 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>,
success
Feb 09 11:27:42 2006 (11160) post to announce from
root at mail.physics.tamu.edu, size=1924,
message-id=<200602091727.k19HRdLY011169 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>,
success
Feb 09 11:42:51 2006 (11160) post to announce from
pdbogen at physics.tamu.edu, size=1905,
message-id=<200602091742.k19Hgkug012917 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>,
success
Feb 09 11:54:37 2006 (15456) post to announce from
root at mail.physics.tamu.edu, size=1924,
message-id=<200602091754.k19HsZOG015467 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>,
success
Feb 09 11:59:47 2006 (15456) post to announce from
root at mail.physics.tamu.edu, size=1723,
message-id=<200602091759.k19Hxiwn016032 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>,
success

Corresponding in smtp:
Feb 09 11:25:52 2006 (20476)
<200602091725.k19HPmje010926 at mail.physics.tamu.edu> smtp for 13
recips, completed in 0.704 seconds
Feb 09 11:27:42 2006 (11160)
<200602091727.k19HRdLY011169 at mail.physics.tamu.edu> smtp for 13
recips, completed in 0.936 seconds
Feb 09 11:42:51 2006 (11160)
<200602091742.k19Hgkug012917 at mail.physics.tamu.edu> smtp for 13
recips, completed in 0.572 seconds
Feb 09 11:54:37 2006 (15456)
<200602091754.k19HsZOG015467 at mail.physics.tamu.edu> smtp for 13
recips, completed in 0.427 seconds
Feb 09 11:59:47 2006 (15456)
<200602091759.k19Hxiwn016032 at mail.physics.tamu.edu> smtp for 13
recips, completed in 0.655 seconds

And then a few seconds after each one in vette:
Feb 09 11:26:05 2006 (20474) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091725.k19HPmje010926 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:26:07 2006 (20474) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091725.k19HPmje010926 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:26:09 2006 (20474) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091725.k19HPmje010926 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:28:05 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091727.k19HRdLY011169 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:28:07 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091727.k19HRdLY011169 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:28:09 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091727.k19HRdLY011169 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:43:05 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091742.k19Hgkug012917 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:43:07 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091742.k19Hgkug012917 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:43:09 2006 (11158) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091742.k19Hgkug012917 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:55:06 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091754.k19HsZOG015467 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:55:08 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091754.k19HsZOG015467 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 11:55:11 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091754.k19HsZOG015467 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 12:00:05 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091759.k19Hxiwn016032 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 12:00:07 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091759.k19Hxiwn016032 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>
Feb 09 12:00:10 2006 (15454) Message discarded, msgid:
<200602091759.k19Hxiwn016032 at mail.physics.tamu.edu>

It'll take me a bit longer to pull the applicable sendmail and
procmail logs. Nothing looks amiss in procmail, though; it matches on
^TO_announce at physics.tamu.edu and sends it along to the mailman
handler as it should.

What I'd really like to see is a snapshot of the actual messages that
are being send to the smtp server.. I probably know enough python to
hack that in myself, though. I'll look at that on Tuesday.

- Patrick Bogen

On 2/11/06, Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> wrote:
> Patrick Bogen wrote:
>
> >Post shows my message sent to the list received properly.
>
>
> Actually, 'post' log entries say that the message was not only
> 'received' by Mailman, but that it made it all the way through and was
> sent out.
>
>
> >SMTP shows
> >that it delivered to recipients. (If exact messages would be helpful,
> >let me know and I'll grab them from the logs.
>
>
> This means that the outgoing message was successfully passed to and
> accepted by the MTA. It is a matter of faith that the recipients of
> the message as sent to the MTA are in fact the list members who should
> receive it. At this point, it's up to the MTA to deliver it, and if we
> accept that the recipient list given to the MTA is correct and doesn't
> include the 'announce' address, the only thing that would come back
> would be a bounce which should be returned to the announce-bounces
> address.
>
>
> >These reports are from
> >memory, but I looked at the various logs several times before
> >resorting to asking for help. :)
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> The smtp log entry relating to delivery of a post looks something like
>
> Feb 11 17:17:09 2006 (1570) <43EE8C62.3050407 at bbiw.net> smtp for 66
> recips, completed in 0.887 seconds.
>
> The important things are the message-id (<43EE8C62.3050407 at bbiw.net> in
> this case) and the number of recipients (66 here) equal to the number
> of message mode subscribers with delivery enabled minus the sender if
> the sender is 'not metoo' and minus any subscribers that are 'nodups'
> and mentioned in To: or Cc: of the post.
>
> The important thing about the message-id of the post is that it not be
> of the form <mailman.6292.1139703813.1568.list at host>, because that
> indicates a Mailman internally generated message and not a post.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>


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- Patrick Bogen