[Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

[Beartooth]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote:

> 	If you're talking about posting to the mailman-users and/or 
> mailman-developers lists from a Gmane hosted newsgroup, then we need 
> to have a talk with them again.

 	Yes. As you doubtless know, they accept nominations from 
anyone, but ask the nominator to refrain except with permission of the 
list; iirc, they used to check, too, but it's been quite a while. They 
do certainly still run a panoply of spam defenses.

> 	IIRC, we asked them to stop mirroring the mailman-* mailing 
> lists a while back, and if they have stealthed back into the system, 
> then we need to look at banning all Gmane addresses from contacting 
> any of the python.org sites through any mechanism.

 	That is of course your choice, and I'm sure you have reasons.

 	One effect will be to drive me, and doubtless some rising 
number of others, as baby boomers retire and get into other 
activities, off your lists. Gmane's great virtue is that it's a lot 
simpler to monitor than trying to cope with list archives; one can 
check occasionally for anything that looks comprehensible, delete the 
rest unread, and gradually acquire enough competence, or at least 
enough vocabulary, to ask what one needs. Having done so, one can flag 
one's own post, and watch for replies.

 	To take the example I know best, one can monitor some 
thirty-odd lists fairly actively, plus two or three times as many ad 
hoc, of which one would not tackle more than two or three by 
subscriptions -- and still do one's own work, and have a life.

 	There is also a compromise, though I have no idea how feasible 
it might be for you: one can run one's one groups on one's own 
newsserver. Examples are opera.no and grc.com (Steve Gibson's outfit, 
which naturally has impressive defenses).

 	And with that I'll stop bothering you. No reply required 
unless you should embrace some less draconian choice. Strength to your 
arms! It's a fine listserver, and of course that comes first.

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
What do they know of country, who only country know?