[Mailman-Users] GMane?

John A. Martin jam at jamux.com
Fri Feb 17 07:38:29 CET 2006

>>>>> "JC" == JC Dill
>>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?"
>>>>>  Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:45:44 -0800

    JC> When we first asked Gmane to not gateway this list, one of the
    JC> issues was that while our own archives munge the email address
    JC> of list posters, the Gmane feed didn't do any munging.

Did you consider selecting the option to have Gmane do address
obfuscation?  I suppose that would require someone at Gmane to
intervene if your list had been subscribed by a third party.

    JC> Taken together (gatewaying the list without permission, and
    JC> exposing the email addresses to spammers) we were not very
    JC> happy with Gmane's actions.

The "without permission" bit is I think a bit misplaced.  Any
subscriber can do what they will with list mail they receive.  They
can (and do in other venues) put list mail to public and private
archives, send it to other lists, and expose it to search engines
anywhere.  In fact Gmane removes lists when there objections.  I don't
know what more it is reasonable to expect from Gmane.

From what has been said it seems that Lars agreed to remove the lists
but later it appeared either the removal was not done or that the
lists had been subscribed again.  Whatever the case it seems that Lars
acknowledged, in <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9291>, that
something had apparently gone wrong "a long, long time ago".

If Gmane was such a menace to the lists why was it "a long, long time"
before the issue was brought to Lars attention again?


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