[Mailman-Users] GMane?

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Fri Feb 17 21:12:20 CET 2006

At 1:32 AM -0500 2006-02-17, John A. Martin wrote:

>  You would have one look at a FAQ Wizard after seeing the specific
>  unqualified assertion above?  Last time I looked, the Mailman FAQs
>  1.11 and 1.18 recommend Gmane along with Mail-archive while 1.11 notes
>  that the latter runs Google ads.

	The Mailman FAQ Wizard can be edited by anyone, as you well know. 
If you were to search again for Gmane, you would find that the 
references were considerably less favourable.

	Most recently, it looks like we got FAQ spam from someone pumping 
the nabble.com gateway/archive service, and you damn well better 
believe I'm going to be looking really close at this.

>                                    If you are so proud of the
>  Mail-archive archive, why not include it in the List-Archive: header
>  field?  (It will take a comma separated list, no?)

	Yes, it would take a comma separated list, and I don't believe 
that is allowed by the RFCs.  If you were to check the FAQ Wizard 
again, you would note that mail-archive.com is listed as being the 
"official" gateway/searchable archive service.

>      Brad> Please try checking the Mailman FAQ Wizard before accusing
>      Brad> us of not providing some sort of functionality that you find
>      Brad> to be critical.
>  Perhaps it is lost on those who are not accustomed to it, but reading
>  current or archived mail as if it were news is vastly more convenient
>  than reading mail through a web interface, IMHO.

	Perhaps it is lost on those who are not accustomed to it, but 
common courtesy requires that you check the FAQ before you post a 
question that is answered in the FAQ.

	We work very hard to create the best FAQ we can, and try to keep 
things as up-to-date as we can manage, and we don't deserve to be 
abused by people like you for our failure to deliver a 100% perfect 
service -- for free (as in free beer), in our so-called "spare" time, 
no less.

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

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