[Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Wed Mar 1 23:12:24 CET 2006

At 4:34 PM -0500 2006-03-01, Christopher X. Candreva wrote:

>>  Like most people who've been running mailing lists for 20+ years, I
>  Funny, I would have guessed this was your first, comming from a marketing
>  background with the selfishness you are showing.

	Selfishness?  I think you might want to look in the mirror first.

>>  have strong opinions about list policy. Please address the mechanism
>>  I asked for instead of seeking to discuss the policy issues.
>  Would you like to provide the IP of your mailman server, so we can block
>  just that and not your whole domain ?

	We run python.org this way.  How about we just ban you from all 
the lists on python.org?

>  Sorry, when you get 1,000 AN HOUR of autoreplies for mail you didn't send
>  you look at it differently.

	When you get 2GB worth of syslog data in less than a 24 hour 
period of time, or when you've worked at a site handling tens of 
millions of e-mail messages per day, or when you've been personally 
blamed for taking out all e-mail across the entire Internet and 
resulting in the bankruptcies of more than a few companies as well as 
some personal bankruptcies as well, you develop a certain perspective 
on things.

>  But you want operational,  put SpamAssassin or some other filter in front so
>  you don't reply to spam at all.

	Just because you run SpamAssassin (or any other anti-spam 
filtering system) doesn't mean that some spam won't slip through. 
Run a large enough site, and when even a relatively small percentage 
slips through, you're still talking about large amounts of bogus 
stuff that you've got to try to deal with.

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

  LOPSA member since December 2005.  See <http://www.lopsa.org/>.

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