[Mailman-Users] Misdirected probe messages?

James Davis jamesd at jml.net
Wed Mar 8 11:54:08 CET 2006

First time I've run into trouble with mailman after running several
lists using it. I added a new list to my install yesterday which is an
order of magnitude larger than any I've run before with 3,600 users. I
set the list up as I would normally, adding the following aliases to my
exim virtual hosts setup.

## wil-mailing mailing list
wil-mailing:              "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post wil-mailing"
wil-mailing-admin:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin wil-mailing"
wil-mailing-bounces:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
wil-mailing-confirm:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
wil-mailing-join:         "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join wil-mailing"
wil-mailing-leave:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave wil-mailing"
wil-mailing-owner:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner wil-mailing"
wil-mailing-request:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request
wil-mailing-subscribe:    "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
wil-mailing-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe

About 300 addresses bounced on the first mailing and mailman sent probes
to those addresses. The probes seem to be bouncing back to addresses
that don't exist and ending up in my 'Catch all' mailbox. An example of
one of the mails that ends up in my mailbox follows. Any idea what I've
done wrong? I presume that bounce should end up going to mailman instead
of me.

Many thanks,


>From - Wed Mar 08 09:43:27 2006
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Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:32:47 +0000
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This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  kj at teapot.org.uk
    Unrouteable address

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

<wil-mailing-bounces+a37afb682adc1df029af9c3b91bdb51bf105cae6 at freecharity.org.uk>
Received: from localhost ([] helo=freecharity.org.uk)
	by freecharity.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
	id 1FGtA5-0003c0-UM
	for kj at teapot.org.uk; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:32:46 +0000
Subject: WIL-mailing mailing list probe message
wil-mailing-bounces+a37afb682adc1df029af9c3b91bdb51bf105cae6 at freecharity.org.uk
To: kj at teapot.org.uk
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Message-ID: <mailman.683.1141778786.539.wil-mailing at freecharity.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:46:26 +0000
Precedence: bulk
X-BeenThere: wil-mailing at freecharity.org.uk
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
List-Id: WIL website alerts <wil-mailing.freecharity.org.uk>
X-List-Administrivia: yes
wil-mailing-bounces+a37afb682adc1df029af9c3b91bdb51bf105cae6 at freecharity.org.uk
wil-mailing-bounces+a37afb682adc1df029af9c3b91bdb51bf105cae6 at freecharity.org.uk

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
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This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.

The WIL-mailing mailing list has received a number of bounces from
you, indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to
kj at teapot.org.uk. A bounce sample is attached below.  Please examine
this message to make sure there are no problems with your email
address.  You may want to check with your mail administrator for more

If you are reading this, you don't need to do anything to remain an
enabled member of the mailing list.  If this message had bounced, you
would not be reading it, and your membership would have been disabled.
Normally when you are disabled, you receive occasional messages asking
you to re-enable your subscription.

You can also visit your membership page at


On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
as your email address and whether you get digests or not.  As a
reminder, your membership password is


If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner

    wil-mailing-owner at freecharity.org.uk

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X-Failed-Recipients: <long list of addresses here>

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